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O'Reilly sourcing
[edit]The O'Reilly quote references Charity Navigator, the same group responsible for the (discredited) BBC claims about Live Aid funds. Seems either the quote should go, or the countered information should follow... 50.55.147.176 (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Neil Mallard/Visnews
[edit]There's an awful lot of waffle about Neil Mallard and Visnews in the opening 'Origins' section that is superfluous information in my opinion. As it appears to be the sole Wikipedia contribution by the anonymous editor, I think it is highly likely that it was written as promotional puff by Mallard/Visnews himself. I think most of it should be struck out – we don't really need to know all the details of how the TV deals were set up. Richard3120 (talk) 09:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention, it's all unreferenced too. I can certainly find mention of Hal Uplinger's role in the set-up, but nothing about Mallard, which makes me even more suspicious that somebody is trying to inflate the importance of his role in the proceedings. Richard3120 (talk) 09:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Criticisms and controversies
[edit]Seems to me this could use expanding, as the event was widely and pointedly satirized after the fact by the likes of Living Colour ("Go Away"), Faith No More ("We Care a Lot"), Chumbawamba (Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records), P.J. O'Rourke ("Fiddling While Africa Starves"), and Cracked.com ("5 Embarrassing Failures History Class Turned Into Victories"). Worth mentioning? Calbaer (talk) 18:54, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
- This is one of the most moronic Wiki sections I have ever read. Adam Ant is cited as saying the performances were "boring." Really? Anybody look at the Freddie Mercury performance?" We need more context and nuance. I understand that's a lot to ask of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:cb81:3770:b1a7:6b84:9dad:83a4 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- It was Andy Kershaw who called the performancees boring, not Adam Ant. And what's your point? Whether Mercury's performance is good or bad is personal opinion, not fact. And nuance is exactly what is being provided here, by adding a section on criticism of the event. Richard3120 (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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B.B. King?
[edit]Seems to have played, at least according to my ears (and mp3s). But no mention of him. What's that about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.228.6.74 (talk) 21:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Whereabouts do you think he played? Between which other artists in the running order? Richard3120 (talk) 00:58, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- I just checked the DVD's out from the library and I see no mention of him and nothing in the notes saying that he played and the video was not included in the DVD's. Ckruschke (talk) 18:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)Ckruschke
- He certainly didn't play the UK leg - I didn't watch all the US leg at the time but the only acts I think that could possibly have been mistaken for him were George Thorogood and Santana. Richard3120 (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- Good point - he might be mistaking Bo Diddley or Albert Collins, who both played with George Thorogood during The Destroyers set, for King. Ckruschke (talk) 18:50, 25 January 2016 (UTC)Ckruschke
- He certainly didn't play the UK leg - I didn't watch all the US leg at the time but the only acts I think that could possibly have been mistaken for him were George Thorogood and Santana. Richard3120 (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- He didn't play live on stage in London or Philadelphia, but the BBC showed him performing a couple of songs in The Netherlands during the day.Swaddon1903 (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Repeated reverts by Ajax1995
[edit]Over the past week I have been reverting vandalism by Ajax1995, who has taken to gutting reliably cited text on WP:JDLI grounds. I'm kicking off this section to make sure we avoid any potential "He's-an-IP-so-revert-him" silliness.
According to journalist and author Dylan Jones in his book The Eighties: One Day, One Decade, Simon LeBon's off-key note at JFK was widely described in the media as "The Bum Note Heard Round the World". Jones is very much a reliable source, and the ubiquity of this phrase following Live Aid makes it notable for the article. This material is also supported by Digital Spy (a news site published by Hearst that has been in existence since 1999), which is used elsewhere to support Freddie Mercury's Wembley high note being described as "The Note Heard Round the World". The publication also states that the descriptions of the Mercury and LeBon notes were used as contrasting phrases. All relevant, all reliable. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:6897:461E:6828:4B3D (talk) 21:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- Inappropriate WP:TONE with this stuff. Binksternet (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- Point to specific examples of where WP:TONE is violated. If a description is widely used, then it's widely used and should be in the encyclopedia, regardless of user opinion on that description. In the meantime I'll revert to the extant version per not only WP:STATUSQUO, but WP:NEIPIAV. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:64D5:1068:1FC6:9E77 (talk) 20:02, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- You go off on a tangent! nothing to do with WP:STATUSQUO or WP:NEIPIAV, your point is only CHIT CHAT, irrelevant POV by some British tabloids, and those ridiculous "The Bum Note Heard Round the World" and "The Note Heard Round the World" is pure gossip by some pseudo-journalist and nobody cares this, two stupid phrases which nothing brings to an ENCYCLOPEDIC article.Ajax1995 (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Point to specific examples of where WP:TONE is violated. If a description is widely used, then it's widely used and should be in the encyclopedia, regardless of user opinion on that description. In the meantime I'll revert to the extant version per not only WP:STATUSQUO, but WP:NEIPIAV. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:64D5:1068:1FC6:9E77 (talk) 20:02, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
I am now dealing with harassment from Binksternet for using "multiple IP addresses" to "vandalize" this page[1] (um, who's removing fully cited text with no argument whatsoever, again?), even though I previously made clear that I am "on a dynamic Sky IP that changes regularly".[2] All the while, he still cannot provide a single shred of reasoning for reverting my edits – anti-IP editor agenda seems likely. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:95C7:5E02:1840:6A58 (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
- "fully cited"?, everybody can add sourced stuff and ridiculous phrases, the question is which of those "sourced" information is appropiate to add, discern between valuable and pure chit-chat, silly info which is already available on blogs and trivia sites. Salutes, I hope (as a civilized person I think you are) you understand this point, Binksternet tries to maintain order and a neutral-"encyclopedic" language on Wikipedia.Ajax1995 (talk) 15:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I've semi-protected the article this time as the IP seems to have no support for their changes. IP, please stop reverting multiple editors and start a WP:RFC if you want wider input. --NeilN talk to me 09:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Lolzer, "seems to have no support"? If you actually looked at what's going on (rather than driving the "revert-all-IPs!" agenda plaguing this site) you'd see I'm restoring fully supported material being removed with no rationale other than "I don't like it!" So yes, I'll continue to de-rig the article in the face of WP:OWN antics from "established"/agenda-driven editors. 94.1.67.27 (talk) 15:40, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'm neutral here, but I think the argument is more whether such content has a place in an encyclopedia or not, rather than editors "liking" it or not. It would be better to open this up as an RfC, as NeilN suggests. Richard3120 (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Well, that makes you and I for the neutral team. I've already been falsely accused of "sockpuppetry", "vandalism" and adding "unsourced" information – all utterly bollocks claims that I've shot down and which hint strongly at an anti-IP agenda (not like that hasn't plagued Wikipedia for years). What's really going on is restoration of cited material that's being repeatedly removed by an editor who will simply offer no reasoning; other "established" editors see this and jump on back of the IP, who must be a vandal. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:24D2:7F93:E176:1BD5 (talk) 05:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Are you going to add an RFC? Also, please read wp:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (WP:BRD) and wp:edit warring. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 07:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Well, that makes you and I for the neutral team. I've already been falsely accused of "sockpuppetry", "vandalism" and adding "unsourced" information – all utterly bollocks claims that I've shot down and which hint strongly at an anti-IP agenda (not like that hasn't plagued Wikipedia for years). What's really going on is restoration of cited material that's being repeatedly removed by an editor who will simply offer no reasoning; other "established" editors see this and jump on back of the IP, who must be a vandal. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:24D2:7F93:E176:1BD5 (talk) 05:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'm neutral here, but I think the argument is more whether such content has a place in an encyclopedia or not, rather than editors "liking" it or not. It would be better to open this up as an RfC, as NeilN suggests. Richard3120 (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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Cliff Richard
[edit]Cliff Richard is included both in the section of notable absences and also in the performers under 'other', introduced by Andy Kershaw. This requires clarification.Martin Turner (talk) 23:25, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- What happened was that he didn't play the concert, he turned up unannounced to the BBC studio after the London leg had finished (but they were continuing to broadcast the rest of the Philadelphia leg), and he proceeded to sing and play the song on an acoustic guitar in the BBC studio. But it wasn't a planned part of the concert. Richard3120 (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Performances default collapse
[edit]Most of the content in the "Performances" section renders as default collapse in my user agent (presently a slightly dated Firefox).
When I click on a section title within this section, such as "Notable absences", my click takes me nowhere, because the content is default collapse. This is a bad thing.
See WP:COLLAPSE.
Collapsible templates should not conceal article content by default upon page loading.
Reasons are given there. — MaxEnt 05:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - this is not a "bad thing". This section is a 4+ page wall of words. The decision was made to allow for better reading of the overall page while still having this information available for readers who are interested. I was able to open up the entire section at one click. Not sure why you are seeing an issue. Ckruschke (talk) 18:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke
logo
[edit]Steve Maher should get a shout-out for his logo. my man put out a logo which still resonates four decades on. Electricmaster (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
FEED THE WORLD
[edit]What does the FEED THE WORLD sign at Wembly Stadium mean?Sleigh (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- You're asking what is the meaning of the words that are repeated at the end of the Band Aid single that inspired this event, which was to raise money to provide food to starving people in Africa? Richard3120 (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
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