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Section sizes

Section size for Netherlands (53 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	20,826	20,826
Etymology	57	9,944
Netherlands and the Low Countries	3,281	3,281
Holland	5,398	5,398
Dutch	1,208	1,208
History	49	47,468
Prehistory (before 800 BC)	4,702	4,702
Celts, Germanic tribes and Romans (800 BC–410 AD)	5,133	5,133
Early Middle Ages (411–1000)	6,125	6,125
High Middle Ages (1000–1384)	2,191	2,191
Burgundian, Habsburg and Spanish Habsburg Netherlands (1384–1581)	8,815	8,815
Dutch Republic (1581–1795)	8,455	8,455
Batavian Republic and Kingdom (1795–1890)	5,033	5,033
World wars and beyond (1890–present)	3,720	6,965
Decolonisation	3,245	3,245
Geography	4,178	26,470
Geology	1,022	1,022
Floods	6,105	6,105
Delta Works	3,068	3,068
Climate change	3,384	3,384
Nature	6,109	6,109
Caribbean islands	2,604	2,604
Government and politics	4,782	20,950
Political culture	3,537	3,537
Administrative divisions	6,663	6,663
Foreign relations	2,031	2,031
Military	3,937	3,937
Economy	8,393	17,330
Energy	3,813	3,813
Agriculture and natural resources	5,124	5,124
Demographics	8,786	31,397
Language	6,285	6,285
Religion	8,618	8,618
Education	2,728	2,728
Healthcare	4,980	4,980
Transport	1,444	12,788
Road transport	2,193	2,193
Public transport	1,706	1,706
Cycling	2,721	2,721
Water transport	2,039	2,039
Air transport	2,685	2,685
Culture	49	23,530
Art, architecture and philosophy	3,531	3,531
Dutch value system	2,518	2,518
Music	4,053	4,053
Film and television	4,401	4,401
Sports	3,726	3,726
Cuisine	5,252	5,252
See also	71	71
Notes	26	26
References	30	805
Sources	775	775
External links	2,014	2,014
Total	213,619	213,619

Music Section

I can appreciate examples of Dutch musicians of various styles, but it's reading a bit like a list of musicians without adding anything to the article. I think maybe just including a link to a List of Dutch musicians at the start of the section and maybe just the top 2 or 3 most well-known or popular bands after each genre would make it cleaner. Lindsey40186 (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should drop name spam....Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries#Sections " Caution should be taken to ensure that the sections are not simply a listing of names or mini biographies of individuals accomplishments." Good example Canada#Music. Moxy🍁 18:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lopsided wording "inventiveness" and food exports

From the intro: "Nevertheless, it is the world's second-largest exporter of food and agricultural products by value, owing to its fertile soil, mild climate, intensive agriculture, and inventiveness". "inventiveness" is neither scientific, nor objective, nor neutral. I understand the intent looking at the source, but something like "innovative agricultural practice" or something would probably be a bit more serious than that word which really sounds like a value judgement. I'm also wondering if we shouldn't add the consequence (stikstof - nitrogen crisis) of the intensive agriculture but I'd let the experienced users be the judge. 89.207.171.120 (talk) 06:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The whole sentence is wrong. A country can have fertile soil, a mild climate, intensive agriculture, and "inventiveness" and feed only itself, let alone be the second-largest exporter. And assuming those qualities lead necessarily to being an exporter, how does it necessarily follow from them that it will be precisely the second largest, as the wording implies? Finally, what does "second-largest ... by value" mean? By what value? Measured how? I have no idea! Largoplazo (talk) 10:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Geert Wilders is not prime minister

Geert Wilders is incorrectly named prime minister of the Netherlands. Current outgoing prime minister is Mark Rutte. Even though Geert Wilder’s party won last election, he will not be prime minister as agreed with the other three forming parties. Succeeding prime minister after last election is not decided yet. 87.212.254.148 (talk) 20:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Links to BBC News profile

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The two BBC News profile links at Netherlands § External links go to the same page. I suggest removing one - the second, since that old URL now redirects. --Talky Muser (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. 〜 Askarion ✉ 22:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Talky Muser (talk) 08:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]