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2004 comments

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--Red Deathy 10:45, 2005 May 9 (UTC)Let's say there are 60 voters and 2 seats to fill. To guarantee a win, a candidate must get one more than (1/(2+1)) = 1/3 of the votes. 1/3 of 60 = 20. Three candidates can theoretically get 20 votes, so a candidate has to get 21 votes to guarantee a win.


Text was merged from Single Non-Transferable Vote. --Jiang 08:47, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Relation to limited voting

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Just wondering, does anyone out there have any strong feelings about moving this section to a slightly broader discussion of limited voting?

I've seen SNTV described as 'strictly limited vote' and the implications/considerations don't really change uch between single limited voting and mulitiple limited voting, save perhaps the proportionality bit. There is already a Limited Voting section, but that doesn't do much, and it's a bit pointless with this page here.--Red Deathy 10:45, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

Local election in the UK

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Isn't this used for local election in the UK as well, when one or more members of a ward are up for election? Sceptre (talk) 01:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Scotland it's Single Transferable Vote in England and Wales its the Block Vote--Red Deathy (talk) 08:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. See, I'm in two council areas where the seats are in tranches (Calderdale MBC, Leeds City Council). So... Sceptre (talk) 16:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In some council areas in the UK there are 'all-out' elections where 2 or 3 councillors are elected in a ward. Usually one party wins all the seats from a particuar ward. You have as many votes as there are councillors ie 2 in a 2 member seat. SNTV only allows one vote. (Coachtripfan (talk) 20:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]

FPTP

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I'm afraid the article doesn't really indicate how SNTV differs from FPTP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.201.114.138 (talk) 04:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed it does seem like FPTP but only in multi-member seats. (Coachtripfan (talk) 20:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]

SNTV is a generalization of FPTP, it's just what happens with multi-member constituencies if you keep the "1 vote" property. If you keep the "as many votes as seats" property, you get PALV. Julio974 (Talk-Contribs) 08:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comparisons with other voting systems

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Limited Vote - on the surface it may seem Single Non Transferable Vote and Limited Vote are the same. However, the former allows one vote only and the latter allows several votes - but not as many as there are elected candidates.

First Past the Post - it seems FPTP is for single seat elections and that SNTV is essentially FPTP but used in multi-member seats where the top candidates are elected. Like FPTP only one vote.

Single Transferable Vote - this is more proportional and allows for the re-distribution of votes from other candidates. Under SNTV a party could win more votes but fewer seats than a rival if its votes are too concentrated on a particular candidate - or spread too thinly with too many candidates. (Coachtripfan (talk) 08:39, 4 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]