Talk:Tanzania

Improving this article

Just an FYI, I've gotten some books from the library and will be attempting to clean this page up over the coming weeks! All thoughts/comments/help/revisions are welcome! Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

The etimology of Zanzibar's name as provided on this page is quite poor as compared to the one that can be found on the separate page on Zanzibar. Please copypaste that description here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.206.24.162 (talk) 15:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm very confused by this article. Mentioned is the new constitution and election in 1995, and the name of the political party and president elected. Has there been no election since then? Carter1214 (talk) 00:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

I can work on that and expand 20 years of history. Sputink (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

I want to talk about Tanzania independence, Its known that the country is a merger of two, Tanganyika and Zanzibar, now to put more details, Yes Zanzibar got independence 1963, at such it was a monarch under sultan of Zanzibar, later Zanzibar Revolution happened to overthrow the sultan, the event which was very important in creating tanzania, in celebrating their independence Tanzania has at least three dates, Tanganyika independence,Zanzibar Revolution and the day of the union, now I tried to include this Zanzibar Revolution here but it was removed, if we have to put the information about something please let put it all, no biasing please Almasimagorwa (talk) 06:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Please take a look at the national anthem's CC / closed captioning in English. Someone has added CC that is inappropriate. DaLaw (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Experienced Editors

Can some experienced editors provide some insight as to where this article needs work. I would be willing to fix or write anything. Just not sure where to start. -- Sputink (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

When the UN took its vote to seat a delegation from Beijing instead of from Taiwan in 1971, members of the Tanzanian delegation started dancing in the General Assembly. You might start there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.126.167 (talk) 19:30, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Different PPPs

There are different GDP PPPs used in the economy section and the bar on the right. Both seem to be correct but one used the World Bank and the other used the International Monetary Fund. Should this be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hifear267 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I believe if you add "(IMF)" or "(World Bank)" it would be fine. However, Looking at other countries infobox it seems they have stuck with the IMF figures. Sputink (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion of subsection on women

Hello,

a subsection on women should be added to the section on demographics.
Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 12:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

This article has several sentences in women, which should be merged into a seperate subsection. I would like to set up a subsection with some additional content next month.

Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Official Language

The CIA Factbook suggests that Swahili is the official language. Does anyone have any input on that? PureRED (talk) 20:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I do not seem to find any material that states that Arabic is truly an official language in Zanzibar. Sputink (talk) 14:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Figures in Science and Technology

The figures in the Science and Technology section seem to me to be beyond the scope of this article. They are very appropriate elsewhere (in the noted Main Article of Science and technology in Tanzania). While generally I agree with the WP:BEBOLD policy, I thought I would post here before deleting content. Dbsseven (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Knowledgeable people

I believe this is the correct name that can be found in many country articles? Thank you--SvenAERTS (talk) 14:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Religion statistics

Hello, I disagree with the edits of the user Kitutia, because they do not match the source that is listed. I requested on their talk page for a new source if they want to change the statistics, but they changed back again after, so I'm writing here so we can discuss it. I appreciate thoughts on the disagreement to find a solution and what should be done next. Thank you! —{{u|Goldenshimmer}}｜✝️｜they/their｜😹｜T/C｜☮️｜John 15:12｜🍂 04:09, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestions on the actual statistics and their respective references? Nlivataye (talk) 17:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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Long Leading paragraph

Understand that Tanzania is many facets on its importance. Human evolution history, classical history, Islamic colonization, World War, Nationalism, Environment... But having very long leading paragraphs actually confuses casual reader. --Kittyhawk2 (talk) 02:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

GDP

It’s been very long since the GDP both PPP and nominal has been changed and so are it’s per capita income. Do we have any new sources or updated information from the government? Nlivataye (talk) 09:56, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Nlivataye: Long? It's updated couple of times a year from IMF quarterly projections, so it's not been a long time at all. The figures are, as far as stats are concerned, up to date. Do you suggest just arbitrarily changing the figures for no apparent reason with no reference like you have over at Gabon, Namibia and Botswana to push some kind of an agenda? Don't vandalize. ChrisTakey (talk) 02:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

No that was never my intention. From now on I will always communicate with you here and present reliable sources and evidence before posting Nlivataye (talk) 09:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Nyerere Bridge: Not a suspension bridge

The photo's description is incorrect, as that is obviously a cable-stayed bridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.98.90.36 (talk) 03:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Corona virus, musicians and artists

I think we should have a separate section for health and we should cover the way corona virus is being handled by the current gvt of Magufuli and his minions. Also I think it’s unfair that we don’t mention the many musicians and stars that dominate East African scenery in the greater Swahili Speaking world; people like Diamond, Alikiba, AY, Ray C as well as actors both deceased and alive Nlivataye (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

removed from lede until referenced

" One of the oldest known ethnic groups still existing, the Hadzabe, appears to have originated in Tanzania, and their oral history recalls ancestors who were tall and were the first to use fire, medicine, and lived in caves, much like Homo erectus or Homo heidelbergensis who lived in the same region before them.[citation needed] " - This is not reflected in the body of the article, either. HammerFilmFan (talk) 16:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Languages

There are more than 100 ethnicities but there are no over 100 languages spoken in Tanzania,the reference and data you used is inaccurate or out of date. Tanzanians make the most population of swahili speakers and almost 99 percent of Tanzanians speak swahili and use it as a first language it's a recognized national language and now it's a de jure official language as it was signed by the President weeks ago. Tanzania has more than 100 tribes but it's no means of identity,there's much interaction amoung tribes,they live together marry each other speak swahili and slowly tribal languages are fading and are not used or spoken anymore. Swahili is the only language that connect Tanzanians and is spoken as the first language. Warid Great (talk) 10:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Very true. The 10% figure for native swahili speakers is an outrage Nlivataye (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

It depends on what you mean by "native speaker". As long as "tribal" languages are spoken, they are part of the background of every newborn individual of the "tribe", alongside swahili: he learns his community language in his family, then he learns swahili at school. In addition to this, I suggest not to use the adjective "tribal": this has nothing to do with political correctness (that I hate); I think that every culture deserves respect even if it is not recognized at an official level. I am a white European but I love Africa and its immense cultural richness perhaps more than some Africans do...--Gehadad (talk) 14:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

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Foreign relations section

Greats, I believe Foreign relations section section needs to be redone. I notice there are many paragraphs on relations/events with single countries, all dated (also sourced) during JK's phase. These are no longer the case for relations of today, and phase 6.

Because these things are not the case for today, I do not think they should be included on main page of Tanzania. Maybe in history section of the Foreign Relations article?

Another idea is to not have paragraphs for individual events like these in article that is rarely updated. They have been there for almost 10 years, many outdate also many years. I was looking at country articles that have FA status. In their main article they only have a summery of foreign relations.

Perhaps it would be best if this main page only we also only had summery of the foreign relations, rather than new paragraphs for individual events and each country? Cover important things like EAC, AU and UN with only 1 or 2 small paragraph of bilateral relationships. Avoiding adding events that will be quickly outdated since TZ article is not as often maintained or updated.

Many well rated country articles do not separate the bilateral/multilateral sections. If TZ had a title-3 level section I think Arusha as HQ of EAC, and seat of AU courts, and UN courts for things like Rwanda. And place for treaties. This I think would be very informative information on article readers will benefit from. Arusha is better for its own section than the outdated bilateral information.

I welcome your thoughts and ideas! I hope to take a look at fixing the section sometime soon. If I do something others think is wrong please let me know! If you have other good ideas for this (or any other) sections please let me know. It would be nice to see the article as informative of current realities as possible, and other non-current information well place in marked history sections. BevoLJ (talk) 07:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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Major errors in the Tanzania page.

According to the page on Tanzania the president is Kanye West?? And that it borders Texas to the North and is a country in East Canada?? 196.252.244.133 (talk) 16:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

lmao @ this end stat

"making it the most populous country located entirely south of the equator."

In the sense that Indonesia technically extends north of the equatorial line.

I'm going to remove it. If the OG author reverts it, I will not die on this hill.

Jondvdsn1 (talk) 10:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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GDP

Can someone update the per capita income already using IMF or world bank updates. I once did and my edits were reversed RickyBlair668 (talk) 08:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Under what account did you do it? I'm sure if you add a source and an edit summary, there is unlikely to be any objection. CMD (talk) 12:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Conflicting pronunciations

Right at the beginning of the article our English IPA pronunciation disagrees with our English pronunciation respelling. I doubt /zə/ is meant to represent the same sound as zay, but I don't know if either is incorrect. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 21:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Pan-Africanism

The usual suspects have suggested that the Arusha Declaration underscores Tanzania's commitment to Pan-Africanism - er, no it doesn't! This kind of historical linkage to the ideological hobby-horse of the 'diaspora' is all throughout African History articles on Wikipedia. Almost like Wikipedia is serving to create the African History some Americans wish it had! There is a singular clause in the Declaration that mentions African Unity however, if you were to take for example the nominal "all people are created equal" clause (or any other) you could make an equally bogus case that the Arusha Declaration underscores a commitment to Christianity (or similar) - which it doesn't. Pan-Africanism is not mentioned in the Arusha Declaration and was known by the founders of Independant Tanzania at the time many of whom would become extremely averse to it. 144.134.56.177 (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Updates

Much of the statistics on the page are many years, if not over a decade, out of date. Will try start to fix this but hoping this comment draws some attention for help in doing so. Cryptogene (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Error in geographical data: Lake Tanganyika max depth conflated with elevation below sea level

I stumbled upon what I believe to be an error, but I am not an experienced editor, so I'm hoping someone with more experience might take it up if I'm in fact correct.

The "Geography" section states that "The country is the site of Africa's highest and lowest points: Mount Kilimanjaro, at 5,895 metres (19,341 ft) above sea level, and the floor of Lake Tanganyika, at 1,471 metres (4,826 ft) below sea level, respectively".

I believe this is incorrect. As per the Lake Tanganyika article, it has a maximum depth of 1,470 metres (4,820 ft), but a surface elevation of 773 m (2,536 ft). So the maximum lake depth should equate to approximately 697 m (2,287 ft) below sea level. Kbo1138 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

second most german speaking country after Germany???

This is misleading in the first introduction that Tanzania is the second most german speaking country in the world after Germany???😀😀😀 could barely get a hundred thousand people who speak German let alone say it has more German speakers than 8 million Austrians or Swiss come on 85.245.187.39 (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I have reverted the addition. CMD (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿 85.245.187.39 (talk) 04:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)