Jump to content

Talk:List of Korean Americans

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

J Church

[edit]

I don't see Lance Hahn of the band J Church on this list. The band is from San Francisco. Lance is very well respected and does a lot of music writing now for MRR and other publications. Should the founder of Asian Man Records be here also? --McDogm 03:12, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sandra Oh

[edit]

I see that Sandra Oh is included here. As far as I know, she is Korean-Canadian, not American. Am I missing something here? Are we extending the list to people of Korean heritage who have spent a lot of time in the U.S.? --Iceager 1 July 2005 14:57 (UTC)

Well, there are a lot of Korean-born people on the list, notably Philip Jaisohn. I don't see why Canadian-born people couldn't be included as well. Of course, Sandra Oh should also be included on the List of Korean Canadians. -- Visviva 4 July 2005 03:08 (UTC)
The difference is that Philip Jaisohn became an American citizen. In general, not everyone who spends a lot of time in the U.S. identifies oneself as American or takes on American citizenship. We don't generally call Syngman Rhee Korean-American, for example, although he spent much of his life in the U.S. and died in Hawaii. I see that the introduction of the list has been modified to include Korean Canadians in parentheses, but if the nature of the list is being modified, it should be moved to List of Korean Americans and Korean Canadians; I don't know if such a modification is wise. But maybe we should be thinking about alternate lists, either to replace this one or to complement it.
In general, I'm not too fond of "Ethnic-American" categorisations, as I've observed many Americans use the terms carelessly and apply it to non-Americans as if these were names substituting for entire ethnic or racial groups. Maybe the person who included Sandra Oh or Leonard Nam on the list genuinely thought they were American, but I'm not sure it ever enters people's minds to apply the "American" criterion.
What people usually mean when they say "Korean American" (and I myself have been called "Korean American" numerous times), it seems, is "people of Korean descent". Currently the list of Koreans says it includes people of Korean descent, but it doesn't clarify what its relationship with the list of Korean Americans is. I'm all for a list of non-Korean nationals of Korean descent, which would include Americans, Canadians, Australians, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, and Germans of Korean descent. There are lots of noteable people in this general category that are not really collected in any list. One could of course include all of them in the current List of Koreans, but I think a separate list would be useful. --Iceager 01:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Leonardo Nam

[edit]

Born in Buenos Aires, educated in Australia.

Proposal for list inclusion

[edit]

I have made the following proposal regarding the criteria for inclusion for these lists. If this is something that you have comments or ideas about, please provide feedback. Thanks. Wikibofh 9 July 2005 19:15 (UTC)

Elizabeth Shin

[edit]

An anon has twice removed Elizabeth Shin from this list without explanation. Although I note that her article does not currently refer to her ethnicity (except via a category link), I don't think that has anything to do with the removal. It might have more to do with notability, but to me she seems amply notable. Comments? -- Visviva 03:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is a list of famous Korean-Americans and although tragic, there have been just too many deaths of non-celebrities that are relevant for inclusion in this section. Krballer 17:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

regarding Korean MLB player

[edit]

Please note that none of Korean MLB players are Korean-American. They are Korean. None of them immigrated to America. All of them live in Korea during offseason. Only MLB player who can be possibly considered as Korean-American is Terrmel Sledge (however, he is half African-American and Korean).

Ethnicity lists discussion

[edit]

Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) for current discussion of a potential policy to apply to all ethnicity lists on Wikipedia, including this one. JackO'Lantern 20:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

[edit]

I'm sourcing the list in accordance with Wikipedia's No Original Research and Verifiability policies. Basically, anyone described by a reliable source as "Korean" or "Korean-American" (i.e. as opposed to "of Korean descent", "Korean mother", etc.) is on the list. Here are the people I couldn't find anything for. If you have a reliable source that fits that please restore the names:

Mad Jack O'Lantern 01:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please be careful when adding people on the list.

[edit]

Please be careful when adding people to the list. Just because people you want to add are well-known in America, that does not mean they are Korean-American. For example, Park Chan-wook and Kang Jae-kyu. Yes... I know they are well-known movie directors and have directed several Korean movies that are also well-known to American viewers. However, they are NOT Korean-American. They were not born in America. They were born in Korea. They are Korean citizens. They live in Korea. Do you see it? They are far away from being Korean-American.

Please be careful.

  • Nowhere does it say that an American Citizenship defines an American citizen. No where does it say that you must be born in America to become one. An American is simply someone who inhabits America for a long time while taking on the life-style. Got it? Secondgen 11:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the first writer that, although a Korean-born person lived in the United States for years, does not make the person an American citizen. If the person of Korean heritage was born outside of the U.S. and its territories or were not born of parents who are U.S. citizens, then the only way the person can become a citizen is through the naturalization process where the person applies for and accepted for U.S. citizenship. A Korean-born person who lives in the United States can theoretically remain a U.S. permanent resident for many years without attaining U.S. citizenship, as long as the permanent residency is kept current with the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services. Many long-time residents become "Americanized" in their lifestyle after spending many years here, in spite of not having U.S. citizenship.
Also, American citizenship is defined in the article for United States nationality law#Acquisition_of_citizenship (that is, in the political sense) and also here, unlike the case of permanent residence only, regardless of whether that suits our view of how things should be. Lwalt ♦ talk 21:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Kang

[edit]

Currently Michael Kang, who is listed as director/actor (presumably of The Motel) has a bluegrass band's instrumentalist as his link...

I fixed this one. ColourBurst 03:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NAMING

[edit]

In order to be consistent with wiki naming policies we should change all these names to reflect proper Korean name order, that is, last name first followed by first name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.209.18.216 (talkcontribs)


==Definition of "Korean-American"?

Shouldn't a "Korean-American" be someone who is "Korean" (according to how people in Korea define the term "Korean," which is-- born of a Korean mother and father) who now lives in America? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.46.57.159 (talk) 02:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is way too narrow of a definition for "Korean American." And so, how does an American who has mixed ancestry refer to themselves? By the above definition, they likely cannot refer to themselves as anything except American. Or, they could just be put under the umbrella term, "multiracial." I have a Korean mother and a white father, and refer to myself as "Korean American." I would guess to venture that many in my situation do the same.

We should be careful in limiting the term, "Korean American." This list should cover those who have considerable Korean ancestry and have been born in America and/or have spent significant time living here. This would be both an accurate and inclusive way of keeping this listing. --Mulder8281 (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Azia Kim (Troy High School graduate who posed as Stanford University student for 9 months until caught)

[edit]

Is this person noteworthy enough to be put in the main article? Apparently she was a BelowAverageAsian (when measured in terms of public high-school academics), who wanted so much to fit into the top students at Troy Tech, she decided to attend Stanford after her high school graduation. Unfortunately, she was never admitted, yet somehow managed to device her friends and family for a full 9 months (until someone at Stanford finally wised up.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.127.246.249 (talk) 04:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Removals and Need to Add References to Entries

[edit]

Recently, a large number of Korean Americans were deleted from the list because they lacked both a wikipedia entry or references. In a way, this is a good thing - many of those deleted did not belong in the list. However, many do belong, and just need to either be linked to their wiki entry or need a citation.

Below is the list. Any help in reentering them with appropriate citations would be appreciated!

--Mulder8281 (talk) 16:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dominic Pangborn?

[edit]

As far as I know Dominic Pangborn is a Korean adoptee in the USA turned fashion designer. Komitsuki (talk) 16:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Yeon-hyang

[edit]

Anybody has more info on Lee Yeon-hyang (이연향) in English? She's a Korean language interpreter who works at the General Branch Chief, Interpreting Division (US government) and has some decent exposure in the Korean newspapers. Komitsuki (talk) 10:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

inclusion criteria

[edit]

It seems like list articles have a variety of inclusion criteria so there is no one guideline. I think there needs to be wider agreement before a solid rule is used an so many names taken out. Themwave (talk) 13:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • This discussion for lists of people was over years ago. Either this criteria as written at the start of the article is used or others (not me) will delete delete the entire article as not referenced. This was the compromise with a batch of deletionists. Hmains (talk) 02:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Gibbons of Rock Band Tantric

[edit]

Tommy is Korean born in 1991 in Seoul Korea. He was adopted and raised in Arizona. He started playing guitar at 11 and was world class at age 13. Most recently he joined the rock band Tantric who has a previous Platinum record and still tour all over the world. Tommy is the lead Guitarist and co writer of their songs now. His name is on Wikipedia under Tantric. Tommy is a 2nd degree black Belt in Tang Soo Do, winner of Best Guitarist in the 2014 L.A. Music awards, winner of Guitar Center competition "Guitarmageddon for South West Region in 2003 at only 12 years old. Winner of Louis Armstrong soloist award in 2008 for best musician in Arizona High Schools. Tommy has recorded or played on 16 Albums and has been the subject of Korean magazine articles, local television human interest stories and several newspaper articles. I hope he is considered for the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Triplerpool (talkcontribs) 04:27, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on List of Korean Americans. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:45, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 10 external links on List of Korean Americans. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on List of Korean Americans. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:34, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Images

[edit]

Does anybody think we should add any images to help improve the article? Matt Campbell (talk) 01:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]