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This is an archive page of old messages to me. Please don't edit this page. To leave me a message, visit my current Talk page. Thanks!

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ClockworkTroll 01:53, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

9/11 organizers

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Thanks for cleaning up the organizers of the September 11, 2001 attacks page! I've done some work on that page, and on all of the hijackers linked from it. If you could look through some of them and see if they need any changes, I'd be most appreciative. Thanks, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 23:54, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

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Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Hangmen

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Great minds think alike. I think I was merging as you were redirecting. Mpntod 01:02, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

finno-ugric critic

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Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion#Critic_of_Finno_Ugric_and_Uralic_language_Groups I tried to write exactly that critic into that page, but unfortunately quite engaged deleters simply delete all the information I write there. They refuse to argue, and simply delete. That's why I'd like to have this information in the wiki, but on an extra linked page. Why do you wish that, quite erroneous information without any critic in the wiki? Antifinnugor 10:03, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Administrator nomination

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Hello. You're not an administrator, but I think you should be. If you want, I'll nominate you. You may reply here or on my talk page. Hope to hear from you soon, Wile E. Heresiarch 04:55, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Terrific! You can reply at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cdc to accept the nomination. Good luck! Wile E. Heresiarch 02:28, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

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Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 03:40, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi Cdc, looks like your adminship vote was successful! Terrific! I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to Wikipedia as an administrator. Regards and happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 21:43, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Willy on Wheels

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I've been trying to find out the User IP of the Willy on Wheels that I saw your deletion log of his page moves while studying RC. What was it this time?? Georgia guy 22:28, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I was just cleaning up the redirects that someone else had created and marked {{delete}} when they were moving pages back. So I don't know. You could check the block log. CDC (talk) 22:36, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Category:Airports of Hong Kong/Macau

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Hi CDC. Thanks for sharing your comment at WP:CFD. I would like to let you know that Hong Kong and Macau are special administrative regions, i.e. special territories or dependent territories, whatever you call it, of the People's Republic of China (PRC). In fact the category:Airports of the PRC is now listed on the discussion page of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) for renaming, to follow the naming conventions.

Furthermore, many of the subcategories of category:Airports are filled with only one article or two. To name a few, category:Airports of Aruba, Austria, the Bahamas, Bahrain, Brunei, Cayman Islands, Kuwait, Singapore and Vanuatu. — Instantnood 06:52, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)

Lawrence Reed

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Hi, I was just wondering why the bio for Lawrence Reed was deemed a copyright violation? The bio is a public doc that is provided from the website www.mackinac.org...and is passed out for all speeches and events.

Thanks,

Acl

Generally, to protect Wikipedia we have to assume a cut-and-pasted document that we haven't specifically been given permission for, and isn't obviously public domain, is a copyright violation. I notice that www.mackinac.org has a copyright notice at the bottom of every page, after all. If you're sure it's a mistake, add a note to the entry on Wikipedia: Copyright problems (under March 14) to that effect; you might specifically cite how Wikipedia's use of the text fits within the terms of use on www.mackinac.org. Do keep in mind that the text will probably be changed substantially if it's posted here - that's how things work at Wikipedia - I'm no copyright expert, so I don't know if that would be a problem. CDC (talk) 05:00, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Amazingly enough, that's not a copyvio. Weird. I looked through the terms of use, and it's fully GFDL-compatable. (It's the first time I've encountered copyrighted text that was.) So now the article just needs to be wikified. . . – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 02:59, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Just wanted to ask a question

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Hello, this is the author of the DEUD article, which was recently put on the consideration for deletion list. I have a few questions.

Is it against Wikipedia policy to report for informational purposes stories that have been written by authors if they have not as yet been published?

If so, should the story be submitted to Wikibooks, so that it can be considered published material on the Web? unsigned note by User:DVDGuy

Hi, thanks for getting in touch about DEUD. There may not be a specific policy that states exactly that, but in general, I suspect most people on Votes for Deletion (VfD) will agree that articles about most unpublished works are not suitable for Wikipedia. I'd suggest reading Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not to learn more - note that pages that can be interpreted as self-promotion are almost always frowned upon. I don't know anything about Wikibooks, so I can't tell you whether it would fit there; I suspect there are similar policy pages there that would be worth reading.
I recognize that getting your new page listed on Votes for Deletion is a rough introduction to Wikipedia. Please don't take it as a personal attack on you. Based on DEUD, you write very well, and I hope you'll choose to stick around. CDC (talk) 22:05, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

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Hi CDC, Thank you for your vote of confidence at WP:RFA. I look forward to helping out in new ways. Cheers, BanyanTree 03:28, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see you've already warned this user about the spam links they're adding. He/she/it has not stopped. Can I assume you're on top of this? -- Rick Block 17:18, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sock

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Hey Cdc, thanks for blocking Therighteous. Endthefilibuster should get the same treatment. Cheers, TIMBO (T A L K) 04:33, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think your recent closure of the vfd of Outside gross area was in error. As I said I have transwikied the article, so there was no use in closing the discussion with that result. Can you either relist it or un-close the discussion, as we need a consensus as to whether is should be deleted (since transwikied), or kept and expanded. --Dmcdevit 01:35, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ahh... thought it was something like that. Keep up the good work. --Dmcdevit 05:17, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Radio mast articles

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I am contacting you because you have contributed to the VfD discussion on radio mast articles. I just wanted to let you know that a proposal has been put forth at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Masts to address these articles en masse. Your comments are welcome. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 04:37, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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...at Domestication. See User:Mark Dingemanse/Roylee for an explanation of my edit summary the first time I removed it. If you want more, you might also want to check out the history of User talk:Roylee. Regards, — mark 20:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I added more info to the Jeff Parker article, in the hopes you or the other users who voted delete may reconsider. Thanks, 205.217.105.2 18:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Trey Stone has Requested Arbitration with me:

You are mentioned in evidence that I have presented and I'm bringing this to your attention. Comments and evidence of your own are welcome.

Sincerely, Davenbelle 01:09, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

Hi CDC. Just wanted to let you know that RickK has (correctly) listed Don Plett under Wikipedia:Copyright problems and reported this to the VfD. Since you're the original author of the non-copyvio version here, I think you should be the one to copy and paste your text to Don Plett/Temp, per normal copyvio procedures. Thanks, Deathphoenix 05:10, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Is the content of this Lee Harris page, which was created on June 3, the same as the one you deleted on June 2, per Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Lee Harris? If so, it should be speedy deleted. Cheers. -- BD2412 talk 04:29, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

  • Thanks, good to know. -- BD2412 talk 18:11, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

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Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:02, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Kepecs Vanity stuff

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I completely agree that it is trivia, but the user is quite insistent, and has several sockpuppets to support him. Be prepared for strong resistance. Jayjg (talk) 16:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added the Pope John Paul II to my watchlist as well. Jayjg (talk) 21:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Weyes' RfA

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Thanks for linking that behaviour with Ozdusters. Didn't you think it was sufficient to oppose his candidacy though? A lot of RC work involves interfacing with newbies and I'm not sure that someone who thinks the best way to do that is by "whacking" them should be given tools such as the ability to delete articles on sight and blocking.Grace Note 07:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Lisa Dawn Schneider == I was apparently deleted from my space in the Wikipedia library. I am an Art Dealer and Art Writer since 1982. My book, Goddess, Virgins and Angels was bought by the Smithsonian Museum Library, on the sculpture. I am one of the Art Critics for CNN. I am based in New York City. Thank you for your time.

Please note that adding a VfD notice is not a minor edit. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oops, right. My bad. CDC (talk) 17:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

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For reverting vandalism on my page. That was nifty of you. jglc | t | c 18:56, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Golden Grove Village

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Why did you redirect the article to Golden Grove? Why should it be redirected to its suburb? Find some good reasons and I will permit this. Until then, the article will be reverted. Taylor 06:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've looked at the voting page for this entry and I believe that Keep was the consensus (11 Keep - 1 Suspect Keep - 1 Comment - 8 Merge and Delete / Delete. Why then was this article merged? Thanks, Ian Cairns 21:52, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I kept the article, per the consensus. I then boldly merged and redirected it based on my own decision that it is better covered in Tilehurst. No consensus is needed for that, but you are free to revert my edits; I won't object in this case. I apologize, I should have made this process more clear, though the edit history does reflect it. CDC (talk) 22:03, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

EB2004 list

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First, thanks for helping with the Encyclopedia Britannica project! There is a lot to do and we need some creative article-writing.

You removed an apparent duplicate entry in page 18. Normally, those duplicates are kept in place because they indicate EB has two entries on distinct topics with the same name, so we need two articles and a disambig before we can polish them off. The disambig (which turns the list entry blue) gets created last. However, in this particular case - well, see my annotation. David Brooks 03:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Song lyrics

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Are copyrighted song lyrics always disallowed?

Yes, they are, unless Wikipedia has specific permission to redistribute them in compliance with our license, the GFDL; highly in this case. Even then, lyrics are not an encyclopedia article, so would probably be removed by an editor for that reason. CDC (talk) 8 July 2005 17:44 (UTC)

Thanks

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Thanks for your concise vote on Progressive Bloggers. I'm a newbie but quickly becoming addicted, and I wasn't sure if a VFD was the right thing to do on that article. I attempted to get the author to establish notability on the talk page before I VFD'd, and when he (IMO) didn't, I semi-reluctantly put in the VFD. After the first few votes on it, I was sure I'd done something stupid and wasted everyone's time. I'm shocked that it's become the way-too-long controversy that it has, but seeing a vote with a great explanation like yours make me think maybe the VFD was warranted. Friday 9 July 2005 00:01 (UTC)


Question about an entry

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Hi, I was pointed over to Tasteless Ginny earlier today, and while flattered (I'm Ginny) I'm not sure an entire entry in an encyclopedia is fitting for one of their former show producers. If there's any way to merge that into the Ron and Fez category though, that'd probably be better, since that's the only show where I'm still known as "Tasteless."

Re: VfD on Warez Groups

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I've left a comment to your VfD vote on the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of warez groups entry, as I thought that you underestimated the impact that some of these groups make to the ongoing piracy in US and beyond. Please feel free to correct me if that is not the case. RidG (talk) 21:39, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

The bible

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Firstly let me say that I am sorry to have to bother you.

Secondly, I wish to let you know that a recent VFD that you took part in has closed. The result was that 32 people voted to keep all individual bible verses as seperate articles, and 34 voted that they shouldn't (2 abstensions, and 3 votes for both). This is considered by standard policy not to be a consensus decision (although the closing admin stated that it was a consensus to keep them).

Thirdly, the subject has now been put to a survey, so that it may remain open until there is a clear consensus for what appears to be a difficult issue to resolve. You may wish to take part in this survey, and record a similar vote to the one you made at the VFD there. The survey is available at Wikipedia:Bible verses.

~~~~ 18:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Articles by MPLX

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Hi, I noticed you participated in the VFD for Eric Gilder (professor). I am also nominating another page created by this same user, which is also vanity/soapbox/original research: Four Freedoms Federation. See talk page for details. --JW1805 20:08, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Little admin help

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Hey, could you take a look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Hamumu for a sec (I won't be closing it as I nominated it). Maybe I'm getting paranoid, but I have a feeling that all the keep voters are sockpuppets of the creator. Just wanted to get someone else's opinion and perhaps get this thing closed before I spent any more time feeding the trolls. Thanks! --Dmcdevit·t 23:12, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! --Dmcdevit·t 23:29, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

consensus

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The Authentic Matthew VFD has closed. The results were

  • Delete - 21 (58%)
  • Keep - 11 (31%)
  • Merge - 4 (11%)

This was declared to have been no consensus, and therefore a new VFD has been opened at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Authentic Matthew (consensus).


Would you be prepared to re-add your vote there? ~~~~ ( ! | ? | * ) 09:43, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mudder

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Thanks for sorting out the VfD on Mudder, which I had managed to mess up by accidentally deleting the VfD debate instead of the wretched article. seglea 14:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The information you restored varies from the official biography at the Prime Minister's office, Govt of Bangladesh website (link). The education level is disputed, so I think its preferable not to add that. Thanks. --Ragib 23:09, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for that, I have a mental block on that damm colon! Giano | talk 21:56, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Authentic Matthew the sequel

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The POV that was in Authentic Matthew, an article you voted to delete, before it was NPOVed has been re-created at a new article - see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Original Gospel of Matthew. ~~~~ ( ! | ? | * ) 20:20, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Benham & Froud

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Cdc, I'm new to Wikipedia, so please bear with me if this is a stupid question. You were involved in the deletion of the Benham & Froud article on 08/07/2005. Does that mean it is gone for good, or does a copy survive off-line somewhere? It is a subject that I would like to have a crack at, and if a copy of the old article is available I would like to see what is considered to fall short of an acceptable article. Many thanks. Jethrotull002.

I investigated this one closely because I suspected it wasn't being taken as seriously as it should be. I've found that this was a reported incident; the Boeing from London to New York lost pressure twice on passing through 20,000 feet, and returned to London, where it was found that the front cargo door has 1-1/2 inch open, the latch cams loose but the master handle closed, and the cargo warning light unlit. It's been referred to in other, more serious investigations. I've rewritten, but the article will still be deleted without a change of vote--if you have any doubts about your vote, please change it to keep. --Tony SidawayTalk 16:37, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for standing guard

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Just wanted to thank you for your recent revert on Unitarian Universalism. I'm grateful to people like you for standing guard.

--Craigkbryant 02:02, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Government Warehouse

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You may remember that I attempted to address your concerns about the original contents of Government Warehouse, that it was "unverifiable, original research", with a rewrite. Reddi (talkcontribs) has since restored the original unverifiable contents to the article, and then, when I removed them again, "in order to avoid an edit war" forked List of the Government Warehouse's contents. That latter has since been nominated for deletion, but currently there is just the one keep vote. Reddi (talkcontribs) has stated on Talk:Government Warehouse that if the latter article is deleted, xe intends to re-add the content to Government Warehouse once again. Please contribute to the discussions at Talk:Government Warehouse and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of the Government Warehouse's contents. Uncle G 13:20:26, 2005-08-10 (UTC)

Cyrillic-C Cdc

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Hello, Did you create User:Сdс (like Cdc, except with Cyrillic С instead of Latin C) as a preemptive measure? If not, this user is likely an impostor and should be blocked (no undeleted contributions by this user). -- Curps 21:55, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation

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Hi, do look at the talk page of Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation, where I am proposing it to be renamed back as Konfrontasi. Do leave your feedback there. Thanks! ;) --Huaiwei 17:48, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mardin

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Hey, good looking stub! Thanks for taking care of that. Noel (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, they do get confused on occasion, because the Canadian singer is sometimes credited by her first name alone. I have seen people list Shakira as a Canadian pop star. Bearcat 22:50, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Imogiri

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Greetings. I've noticed some mods on the imogiri art. Problem, Imogiri is a japanese and indonesian word, i was thinking of trying to disambig, but the problem was i dont know what the jap word/phrase meaning is.

also I was only just starting wikipedia work when i wrote the imogiri entry, and would probably go back and try a whole range of re-writes (if only I had the time) something like - sacred places and graves of java as a category, so it could utilise the places known to be in the popularly known pundhen/tempat kramat network, which has about 140 first oder sites, and then about 600 to 700 lower order localised sites. a gazzetteer maker's nightmare to say the least. i have the names, but not the time. and seeing western australia, and western tasmania are alos of interest, well then... I vowed myself of talk pages a week ago, and here I am! Best Wishesvcxlor 01:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


English text? It's ten years ago on Monday 5th Sept that I went to live in Yogya to do fieldwork on Imogiri. Give me time. It's painful.vcxlor 23:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a good idea to unblock the article. It's a good idea to observe the discussion and react accordingly. Alx-pl D 17:50, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...that's why I reverted myself after I noticed the amount of ongoing discussion on the talk page, and didn't unprotect. I hope someone involved will request unprotection soon. Three weeks is far too long for a page to be protected, but I'm not the person to mediate an ongoing dispute there right now. CDC (talk) 18:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Should have caught the name change, didn't at the time.

There is a problem, 'Organisasi Papua Merdeka' is the name of a political party; it is not the name of the movement. The people who support West Papuan independence certainly would include all members and supporters of the OPM, but would also include members of the OPM/TPN which is different, and people around the world including those inside West Papua who radically disagree with its policies and storm off to do their own thing.

The OPM was founded in 1965 and has political freedom (Merdeka) as its founding policy; of course that is an act of treason under Indonesian law which is why the OPM and flag raising ceremonies are automatically classed as an act of treason.

I know OPM/TPN looks like it's part of OPM but it is not, TPN disagreed with reframing from militant actions and was not under the control of the OPM but did want to share the same public support of the OPM so its name is OPM/TPN. After the Timika (2002) incident the TPN agreed it was too dangerous to continue its previous policies for risk of being identified as terrorist or being blamed for the Timika attack or others. It's likely the TPN was at some level involved in half the kidnappings from the 1970s to 1990s. For the OPM's part, Otto Ondawame as the OPM leader in 1977 when a kidnapping occurred travelled through the jungle to personally intervene and ensure the prisoners safety and negotiated their release. A practice which I understand all the leaders since have done. The reason is simply because self-defense is permitted under International law & UN conventions, but taking prisoners & extortion is not. Remember, diplomacy is first nature to West Papuan culture, they'd been sending representatives to UN Pacific meetings since the mid 1950s, they'd allowed the Indonesian in only because they were being escorted by the UN. The West Papuan mistake was that they did not know that the Rockefeller family had discovered the gold & copper in 1936, that the March 1959 Dutch announcement of their search for that gold had been followed in Jan 1960 with the Freeport Sulphur signing a mining agreement with the East Borneo Company to sign West Papua, and that the US lead coalition of Islamic nations at the UN demanding afresh that the administration of West Papua be transfered to Indonesia was started the day after UN Sec. General Dag Hammarskjold had been killed.

Anyway, my point was that in West Papuan cultures they expect diplomacy and dialogue to work, for them warfare is only ever used as a means of punishment. It's just a great shame that Standard Oil had ever found that gold and copper deposit.211.30.95.182 07:59, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Pak Harto and Ibu Tien dan lain lain

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Yup. Very slow about getting the Imogiri and Sacred Sites of Java entries to where I would like them, and then I read the Pak Harto entry and see red! Ibu Tien and children deserve separate entries, and the amount of work needed is not what I have time for at the moment... As for the point about reading like a politics 101 essay, it could be anywhere - there is my argument with the economists and political science people when it comes to Java - living 'inside' at the time of Ibu Tien's death, there was a lot simply to that event which reflects a lot about the culture and nation at that time. Oh well that now makes my dream list of hard to put up articles to about 20, oh well some time in 06 maybe!vcxlor 01:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PKI and Semarang

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Was waiting for someone to do that connection. It was reading too much like a travel brochure article, and plop! Reality strikes! Good entry!vcxlor 05:54, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and another thing was Harto's tendency to have some of the old cardres sitting in prison for twenty and thirty years and then bumping them off...interesting one that one - Tapol Bulletin and Inside Indonesia tended to keep tabs on this phenomenon.vcxlor 05:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

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Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Gerwani, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

LPMCOTW

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Hi,

have a look at Wikipedia:Leftist Parties and Movements Collaboration of the Week. --Soman 20:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CP

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Hi, you've reported copyright infringements to WP:CP in the last week, a new measure was recently passed to allow the speedy deltion of new pages that are cut and paste copyvios. Please follow these instructions if you come across this type of copyvio. Thanks. --nixie 00:30, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant copyright infringements may now be "speedied"

If an article and all its revisions are unquestionably copied from the website of a commercial content provider and there is no assertion of permission, ownership or fair use and none seems likely, and the article is less than 48 hours old, it may be speedily deleted. See CSD A8 for full conditions.

After notifying the uploading editor by using wording similar to:

{{nothanks-sd|pg=page name|url=url of source}} -- ~~~~

Blank the page and replace the text with

{{db-copyvio|url=url of source}}

to the article in question, leaving the content visible. An administrator will examine the article and decide whether to speedily delete it or not.


Weather

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remove snow (happens every year all over the world, often in October!)

By that logic, even if it snows in the Sahara, it would not be newsworthy? :-) Seriously, I thought that it seemed out of the ordinary for that area at that time of year, particularly since they had 90 degree temperatures a couple of days before hand. Part of a trend of weather being a tad odd lately. Could be wrong. PerlKnitter 13:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contribution at 2005 South Asia earthquake. Please keep it up!!! Pradeepsomani (talk)