Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring

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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule. See this guide for instructions on creating diffs for this report. If you see that a user may be about to violate the three-revert rule, consider warning them by placing {{subst:uw-3rr}} on their user talk page. You must notify any user you have reported. You may use {{subst:An3-notice}} ~~~~ to do so. You can subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format. Additional notes When reporting a user here, your own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first. The format and contents of a 3RR/1RR report are important, use the "Click here to create a new report" button below to have a report template with the necessary fields to work from. Possible alternatives to filing here are dispute resolution, or a request for page protection. Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed. Definition of edit warring Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring. Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR) An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions. Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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User:2804:14D:BAC1:4CDC:2427:ABC5:AADE:5D66 reported by User:L3X1 (Result: No violation)

Page: The Hellenic Initiative (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 2804:14D:BAC1:4CDC:2427:ABC5:AADE:5D66 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 00:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "Edited Summary"
2. 19:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Extended updates"
3. 00:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Updates and further details"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

This IP (check history) has added what I believe to be improper material to the article 3 times. As such I don't want to revert them nd get engaged in an edit war. ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 01:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. I took care of reverting the latest edit for you. You might want to consider requesting page protection as a better long-term option if they keep up. Daniel Case (talk) 01:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Addendum: They have. I might well be requesting protection myself soon. Daniel Case (talk) 03:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

User:Seanmoral135 reported by User:Amaury (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

Page: Sabrina Carpenter (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Seanmoral135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 06:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC) ""
2. 18:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
3. 17:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
4. 16:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
5. 10:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 17:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Sabrina Carpenter."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Also edit warring on LeAnn Rimes and Tape Inc. and likely other pages. No communication, with plenty of warnings and opportunities to discuss. Amaury • 06:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

User:Seanmoral135 reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

Page: LeAnn Rimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Seanmoral135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 06:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC) ""
2. 09:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""
3. 21:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
4. 07:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 00:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "/* LeAnn Rimes lead photo */ Reply"
2. 00:56, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "/* LeAnn Rimes lead photo */ point to existing discussion"
3. 14:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on LeAnn Rimes."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:LeAnn_Rimes#Lead_image

Comments: Lots of messages on user talk page and article talk page. Ignores them all. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

User:87.210.159.212 reported by User:Untamed1910 (Result: Partially blocked 2 weeks; later increased to sitewide)

Page: Template:Mario Kart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 87.210.159.212 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 22:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241744071 by Untamed1910 (talk) nintendo counts it as main and they do with all there mobile games"
2. 22:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241740590 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) oh yes i will tour is a main game confirmed by nintendo"
3. 21:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241736612 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk)"
4. 20:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241729515 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 22:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Template:Mario Kart."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 22:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "/* Mario Kart Tour */ new section"

Comments:

• Partially blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:45, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Subsequently sitewide blocked for two weeks by another administrator for personal attacks/harassment.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

User:Panzeras invančukovich reported by User:Mellk (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

Page: Ponary massacre (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Panzeras invančukovich (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [1]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [2]
2. [3]
3. [4]
4. [5]
5. [6]
6. [7]
7. [8]
8. [9]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [10]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [11]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [12]

Comments:

Also likely using User:LuvaJotvingis as a sock or vice versa, which has made four five reverts in the past couple hours. Mellk (talk) 14:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I would like to add that User:LuvaJotvingis apparently a puppet of User:Panzeras invančukovich first of all [1] here began to edit Luva in addition undid my edit it is worth noting that these two accounts edited at the same time and that these two accounts were created on 14 June so we have the first characteristic of a puppet in addition Luva has already changed to the same number of victims as Panzer [2], I note that these two accounts only edited Ponary massacre so many times. Polish Piast (talk) 14:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• I've blocked the two accounts plus one other as socks. I suspect there may be an earlier master, perhaps Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wladekimperialny.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

User:PadFoot2008 reported by User:Joshua Jonathan (Result: )

Page: Kalash people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: PadFoot2008 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [13] (actually, reverted away from)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff first warning, diff second warning, User talk:PadFoot2008#Edit-warring in Kalash people.

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

• Talk:Kalash people#"Ancient Hinduism"

Previously:

• Talk:History of Hinduism#"Ancient Hinduism"
• Talk:Maurya Empire#"Hinduism"

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: diff

Comments:

Endless pov-pushing and edit-warring by this editor on multiple pages; see above. Check also their talkpage on the multiple threads on pov-pushing and edit-warring; this is habitual behaviour. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I've self-reverted just in case, but I don't think I've broken WP:3RR. The first dif is neither a revert nor even a partial restore, I only added the term "ancient Hinduism" that had been changed alongside other changes, all without consensus or discussion. Check the reporting editor's edit history as well, the editor frequently indulges in undiscussed (mass) removals of "ancient Hinduism", and has engaged in long drawn out edit wars with other editors, clearly trying push POV. I don't think I have broken WP:3RR nor did I have any intention of breaking it. I am confused whether I've broken it on accident or not, and I have self-reverted just in case, but it would be kind if an admin shall let me know. Also, I've not (never) broken 3RR on any page, I know what 3RR is, and I do not intend to ever break it. PadFoot (talk) 17:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi PadFoot2008 and Joshua Jonathan, I think I haven't yet seen someone self-reverting in response to a self-revert ([14], [15]), and I'd say it's a good sign. I was also amused by the last section at [16].

You both demonstrably do know how to discuss, and there have already been conduct discussions such as [17].

In my opinion, there is no point in placing a short-term edit warring block or full page protection as it would be unlikely to change any disruptive behavior in your case. This is a long-term conflict between two experienced editors, and if other types of dispute resolution really fail, I personally see two ways out of such a conflict:

• disengaging from the other user and/or the topics voluntarily
• requiring community assistance in form of interaction or topic bans for disengaging involuntarily, usually after an ANI discussion

I'll have to decline this report, but there's one thing I can directly ask for: Please stop interpreting the edit warring policy as equivalent or limited to a "three-revert rule". If it helps, forget the 3RR and stop edit warring. Thanks for self-reverting, but please don't do it for the mostly-unnecessary, confusing bright-line rule. If you see someone disagreeing with your edit by reverting it, you should not respond to this by reverting the revert. At least not if you have a history of conflicts and the other user isn't an unregistered silent mobile app user who will never respond to your article talk page discussion invitations. So write one when it happens. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

User:77.28.125.234 reported by User:NeoJade (Result: Page protected)

Page: Danela Arsovska (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 77.28.125.234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 20:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1242248744 by NeoJade (talk)"
2. 20:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1242248169 by StephenMacky1 (talk)"
3. 20:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1240353216 by StephenMacky1 (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 20:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC) "Note: Removal of content blanking (RW 16.1)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

No comments from the user to explain why their edits could be valid reason. Seemingly blanking a section because they don't agree with it. NeoJade ^Talk/_Contribs 20:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Page protected ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)