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Disambiguation instead of division

After having been an anarchist for 40 years, I personally think that the entire article on anarchism is rubbish. One example: I do not see myself as left-wing. That would mean that I would be part of their parliament. We are anti-political, so which idiot describes us as a left-wing political current? The article should have a short - extremely - general paragraph describing the general idea of anarchism and then it should sum up the different currents of anarchism as they are divided in internationals: individualists, anarcho-syndicalists, platformists. The articles on these currents should also be short and general and should just sum up the different versions of individualism etc. That way - at least - there would be a general definition that every anarchist could live with and it would keep all philosophical discussions to a minimum. Underneath every current, there could be further disambiguation until all currents are happy with the description of what they think anarchism should be. Jan De Neys (talk) 18:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, unfortunately Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia based on reliable sources (in theory, anyways), not the self-opinions of the people being written about. Start a Fandom site or something. Yue🌙 07:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jan De Neys: You may try outline of anarchism and contemporary anarchism. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 15:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tokisaki Kurumi Jan de Neys is perfectly demonstrating the inherent hypocrisy of anarchism. 146.200.132.123 (talk) 08:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@146.200.132.123: Note this is the talk page, not a forum. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 10:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To the extent that left and right have any coherent meaning over the centuries, it seems to me, left is for some kind of equality and right is for some kind of stability. Anarchism seeks to abolish the privileges of the political class, so I reckon it belongs on the left. —Tamfang (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additions to section on Russia and Ukraine

Previously this article's history section had two sentences covering the entire history of the anarchist movement in Russia and Ukraine during the revolution and civil war. Recently, a user has repeatedly added in information about a single (relatively minor) event in this history that I personally think gives undue weight to it.[1][2] As I don't want this to become an edit war, would anyone else here care to provide a third opinion on the matter? --Grnrchst (talk) 13:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I still think the last ‹v› in kontrrazvednivks implausible. —Tamfang (talk) 19:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamfang: It was a typo, thanks for pointing out. Fixed in the original article. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism of Anarchism

In my humble opinion, a separate page is needed for this topic. Hew Folly (talk) 19:02, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hew Folly: Are there sources that justify a separate article? Per WP:CRITICISM, dedicated Criticism articles have a tendency to be point-of-view forks if they're not based in reliable sources that are specifically about the criticism of the subject. Do you know of significant coverage of criticism of anarchism in reliable sources? Grnrchst (talk) 08:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't noticed particularly any significant coverage in reliable sources, but the current section may be expanded with more info, if the editors believe there is something missing, or have found have any sources that would be of use here. --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ ^{(talk ✉ | contribs ✎)} 20:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How many people want to abolish the state?

Wikipedia cites a ballpark estimate of two per cent of humanity not believing in God in its article on atheism. I will look for a study for a rough number of anarchists worldwide. 2603:7000:D03A:5895:8009:D0AC:DEBD:5100 (talk) 23:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Against all forms of authority?

Hi friends

The introduction currently claims that anarchism is against all forms of authority. But what about the authority of the bootmaker?

I don't mean to sound like a pedant, but I'm worried that people will only skim the intro and leave with some misunderstandings of anarchism.

I don't have an obvious suggestion to fix it, but I wanted to point it out and start some discussion. AnarchistHistory (talk) 14:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AnarchistHistory, glad to see new faces around. I get your point. But, look how it goes. Intro should reflect Main Body of the Article. Main Body of the Article should reflect the general consensus of contemporary authoritative scholars in the field. Authority of the bootmaker isn't prominent in the current anarchist literature, as I understand. Could you provide significant evidence within Reliable Sources? That would do the trick. Hit me back if you got any questions. Cinadon36 09:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AnarchistHistory Authority has several definitions. One of them (according to google oxford languages thing) is a person with extensive or specialized knowledge about a subject; an expert. I believe this is the type being referred to with that, rather than the usual meaning. Does that make sense? A Socialist Trans Girl 20:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]