Talk:Kaali crater
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[edit]Kaali järv is the lake in the largest crater. Andres 00:34, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I don't think it's a stub anymore. Someone, who knows the deal should please move it to another category or something.
Behind the Neva
[edit]"...behind the Neva river" (the direction of Estonia from Finland)" -- looking at a map, this is nonsense. The Neva is southeast of Finland, Saaremaa is southwest. If the quote is right, they must be talking about a different event. Chl (talk) 03:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- The Kalevala was derived from folklore collected in Karelia, so "...behind the Neva river" is plausible. Martintg (talk) 05:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
"Entymologists"? and claims of ritual sacrifice
[edit]Someone (I haven't done the research to figure out who) made the claim in this article that "entymologists" think the event figures in regional mythology. There is no such thing; I am assuming that the author does not mean "entomologists" (insect scientists) but rather "etymologists" (people who study the history of words). However, this still doesn't make sense, so I substituted the general term "scholars". Really, the whole paragraph could go away, because the mythology angle is discussed below, except that there is an unsourced statement about ritual sacrifice in the final sentence. This is interesting, and if anyone (esp. the author of the paragraph) could find a source discussing it, that'd be great. As it is I probably ought to source-tag it. Illexsquid (talk) 19:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Most Recent Impact Event? Not hardly.
[edit]The Wabar craters were created 147 years ago. And lest we forget, Tunguska was barely 100 years ago. The Nakhla meteorite hit in 1911. There have even been 2 recorded impact events in the past 3 years:
From the impact events article:
On September 15, 2007, a chondritic meteor crashed near the village of Carancas in southeastern Peru near Lake Titicaca, leaving a water-filled hole and spewing gases across the surrounding area. Many residents became ill, apparently from the noxious gases shortly after the impact.
On October 7, 2008, a meteroid labeled 2008 TC3 was tracked for 20 hours as it approached Earth and as it fell through the atmosphere and impacted in Sudan. This was the first time an object was detected before it reached the atmosphere and hundreds of pieces of the meteorite were recovered from the Nubian Desert.[25]
- The claim is not that this is the most recent impact event, but the most recent to leave a crater. The Sudan statement makes no mention of a crater, and the Peru statement is suspect, since an impacting object with enough volatiles to "spew gases" would likely shatter in the atmosphere. Illexsquid (talk) 02:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Fixing bad link to Earth Impact Database
[edit]Here is the correct link:[[1]] I don't know how to correct the link in this article cited in the References. It is required because the dating of this crater is confused in the popular literature. Wilson44691 (talk) 13:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- Link is corrected, thanks for the information, and thanks for the clarification about the age of the crater. Unfortunate that it took over a year for someone to notice your comment! IforgotAboutSemiProtection (talk) 04:59, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Why Ma for such a recent event?
[edit]i changed it to thousands of years ago, any reason why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.210.132.19 (talk) 15:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Age estimate
[edit]My impression of the available sources is that the more recent figure (c. 600 BCE) is likely the more accurate estimate of the crater's age. However I did not have access to the last article cited here beyond the abstract so I did not check them all. There are conflicting figures given in this article, that it is either 4000 BCE or 600 BCE, and conflicting figures given in the references that explain this. I arrived here from the Saaremaa article and that article's summary of this one gave a conflicting figure than this one, so I altered this article to give the 600BCE estimate while leaving in the part about estimates varying and some sources giving 4000 BCE. Perhaps some more research or just a broadened estimate is in order?? IforgotAboutSemiProtection (talk) 04:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- So if I'd had the sense to read the comments above me I would have found the correct link to the earth impact database with a reliable age for the crater! I'm going to assume the person who said the age was confused in popular literature knew what they are talking about and that the 4000 BCE date is correct. I will fix the bad link for the reference and revert my changes to the age estimate of this crater - then reflect this change on the Saaremaa article as well. IforgotAboutSemiProtection (talk) 04:41, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- Most recent estimates position the formation of Kaali crater to ca 600 BC. Other estimates are outdated. Ivo (talk) 23:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- So if I'd had the sense to read the comments above me I would have found the correct link to the earth impact database with a reliable age for the crater! I'm going to assume the person who said the age was confused in popular literature knew what they are talking about and that the 4000 BCE date is correct. I will fix the bad link for the reference and revert my changes to the age estimate of this crater - then reflect this change on the Saaremaa article as well. IforgotAboutSemiProtection (talk) 04:41, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Most recent carbon dating (done by scientist Anna Losiak) of remnants of plantlife destroyed by the blast gives an age of 3200 years. https://www.avaruus.fi/uutiset/maa-ja-lahiavaruus/hiiltyneet-oksat-paljastivat-viron-tormayskraatterien-ian.html --82.131.10.142 (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Wall dimensions
[edit]Karl Kello cites Lougas, V. 1996. Seeking Phaethon in the Kaali Crater Field. to claim that the wall was "about 110m long, 2m thick and 4m high." I can track down this source but it could be worth citing Kello for this claim and adjusting the figures in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alticabode (talk • contribs) 11:37, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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