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Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
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    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
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  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
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    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
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Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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Suggesting updates

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December 5

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

  • The value of a Bitcoin passes US$100,000 for the first time, after rising 130% in the past year. (CNN) (NBC News)

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections


RD: Paolo Pillitteri

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Article: Paolo Pillitteri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Notizie
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian politician, film critic, and journalist. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 4

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Closed) Assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Brian Thompson (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killed in an apparent assassination in New York (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/unitedhealthcare-brian-thompson-death-12-04-24/index.html
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: I checked yes for RD because this is a death, but really this is a blurb. CEO of a major corporation shot in an apparent assassination in broad daylight on a city street. BD2412 T 19:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb but support RD yes this is getting news coverage in the US, but this isn't a global news story, also Thompson led a very quiet life before this, he didn't even have a page until he was killed. Almost all the articles cited in his page are either primary sources, or where made after he was killed. Scuba 20:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If he led a quiet life such that we have nothing prior to this event to build an article, then that's a BLP1E issue and we shouldnt have an article on him. Really this event should be in the United Healthcare article. — Masem (t) 20:44, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
agree _-_Alsor (talk) 22:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that now, retroactively, some news sources, such as the AP, are publishing articles about his life before he was killed. The article has already been made and approved, it's quality is only going to increase from this point. It would be silly to delete it. Scuba 03:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb but support RD. Unless there's some indication that this was a political act, terrorism, or an international death squad then I don't see that it's ITN. It barely even meets GNG for an independent article which makes even an RD questionable - but I think this is a break-all-the-rules occasion and we should post an RD, even if an article for him doesn't meet the requirement of an article through WP:SINGLEEVENT. Nfitz (talk) 02:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, support RD as per above. This isn't particularly global news, but it is notable enough for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Michel Barnier loses no-confidence vote

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 Tim O'Doherty (talk) 19:37, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support changes to the French PM are ITN/R Changes, reelections or reappointments in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government. Scuba 19:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's Macron, isn't it? Masem (t) 19:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The prime minister of France (French: Premier ministre français), officially the prime minister of the French Republic (Premier ministre de la République française), is the head of government of the French Republic Scuba 19:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of current heads of state and government puts the Presidency in that position, not the PM. — Masem (t) 19:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add, I am not making any objection on this yet as a normal ITNC, as even if not ITNR it's still worthwhile to include. It just doesn't seem to have the automatic ITNR aspect. — Masem (t) 20:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, also, looking at that list it says Barnier is head of government, and Macron is head of state, with Barnier shaded blue due to offices lack de jure constitutional power. Scuba 20:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That would be a mistake, the French President has power over diplomacy and national security while the PM is the one actually heading the day-to-day government. I guess since it's a semi-presidential system it sorta blurs the line. Scuba 20:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Part of it is the problem that Wikipedia's own terminology really just assumes that every government just follows the Westminster System, (where all de-facto power on the top level derives from a single elected legislative body that picks its own leader) and thus assumes everything in every other government can be directly translated to an equivalent role. (e.g, treating the United states President as the same as the UK's Prime Minister, just elected separately) As we can see here, there's places where the site's attempts at direct, 1-for-1 parallels on a per-member basis tend to fall apart once you leave the Commonwealth. Realistically I don't think there's any hard-and-fast rule that can just be applied to all governments, but instead it'd need to be evaluated nearly on a per-country basis, and that in many countries like France... The role of "head of government" can't be cleanly placed onto a single head like it can in the United Kingdom. Nottheking (talk) 08:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The wording seems to include the prime minister. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Irrespective of whether this is ITNR or not (in the French system, both the President and the Prime Minister kinda head the government), this is worth blurbing. First time since 1962 that a French government is toppled by a vote of no confidence. Khuft (talk) 19:55, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Regarding the ITN/R status, France has the technicality that the President has more power over the executive outside of cohabitation, and the Prime Minister during cohabitation. And, well, the Macron/Barnier situation was variously described as a messy kind-of cohabitation, although Macron is still considered to have retained more power. So, it's not clear-cut, but not necessarily ITN/R. Still, this is a major political crisis we're getting into, as no group can realistically build a majority coalition and the 2025 budget has to be voted soon, so it's very much significant enough in my opinion. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Chaotic Enby. It's sort of a pseudo-ITNR situation given the cross party appointment and the state of the legislature. However, regardless it is getting extensive worldwide news coverage and should qualify as a normal ITN candidate anyway. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, article appears in good shape (itnr or not) Masem (t) 20:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question - is it the government that lost a non-confidence vote, or the Prime Minister? I'm not sure the exact phrasing of this particular motion, but in most countries it's the government that falls, not the PM; which could lead to the appointment or selection of a new PM to lead a new government, or even the reappointment of the same PM if there's behind the scenes negotiation to obtain support. Nfitz (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    From what I can piece together, it's sorta like the British sytem. The government is gone, Macron has to appoint a new PM and whoever (if anyone) gets approved by the assembly has to make their own cabinet. Scuba 04:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support major political event. Not head of state, I suppose, but well, good enough. Juxlos (talk) 03:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. IDB.S (talk) 05:36, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Shortest-tenured French government in quite some time; serious development in one of the world's largest economies. Daniel Case (talk) 06:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is in good shape; very solid-quality piece. As far as the notability of his position, we have to remember that not every country just has a carbon copy of the United Kingdom's Westminster System, so there often is more than a single "Head of Government." And given that the UK gets two official leaders (Head of State & Head of Government) to merit ITN attention, it's fair to consider most other countries get two such positions, with the Prime Minister of France (who does wield many powers analogous to a Westminster-style PM even if the President is still the official Head of Government) fits the bill here. Nottheking (talk) 08:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is just a consequence of the summer election (which we posted) as its failure to establish a clear majority continues to play out. Barnier will continue as a caretaker PM as no successor is in sight and so the French govt is still a work-in-progress. It's like the continual crisis of the speaker elections and stopgap budgets in the US in 2023 and ITN didn't post every twist in that saga. The broader encyclopaedic topic is the general economic instability and unrest following the COVID-19 recession which is making it hard for incumbents everywhere – Germany, South Korea, &c... Andrew🐉(talk) 13:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The broader encyclopedic topic by itself isn't really suitable for ITN due to poor story-article correlation. Items like this are suitable because they speak towards the broader topic. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:39, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as ITNR In my view, this is clearly ITNR. The ITNR rule allows for elections for "head of state and government". France has a different head of state (Macron) than head of government (Marnier). It does not say "head of state OR government" - the choice of "and" in the ITNR rule therefore implies that both should be posted. If we would like to change the ITNR rule to only designate a single ITNR election per country, that is also fine, but this is not the place to do so. We must enforce the current ITNR rule as it is drafted. FlipandFlopped 14:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are some govts where the head of govt is purely ceremonial as all the power lies in the head of state, and in those cases, changes in the head of govt are not significant. As long as we, as shown here, can discuss and reach the same conclusion for a head of govt solely from an ITNC approach without invoking ITNR, it's probably best to leave the ITNR alone. — Masem (t) 14:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as ITNR as the French President and Premier share jurisdictional responsibility. SerialNumber54129 14:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now due to lack of article - first of all, this is clearly not ITN/R, there's nothing in the provisions for this scenario - thus far Barnier hasn't yet left office and he isn't the most senior poltician in France anyway, that would be Macron. That said, I do in principle think we should post this... *but* the story needs an article. We have March 2023 French votes of no confidence for the less newsworthy ones that didn't succeed, so it is not a correct situation for this story to lack one. Linking to the BLP on Barnier isn't the answer to that, the story isn't just about him anyway it's about his whole government and the much wider situation concerning French politics. Effectively this is an oppose on "quality", since an article not existing is rather a severe quality concern  — Amakuru (talk) 14:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not every event needs a sepearate article, and this impulse editors have to rush to create one is a larger problem with NOTNEWS and article creation in general. ITN just requires a significant update to some article. — Masem (t) 14:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Consider 2024 French political crisis. That's been ongoing since June and Macron is more central to it than Barnier. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:05, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that would be an alright contender for the bold link. But the notion that this event doesn't need an article is bunkum. With a few exceptions, if a story isn't notable enough to be covered anywhere except in a BLP article then it almost certainly isn't worthy of inclusion in ITN. This no-confidence motion clearly should have one (or at the very least a prominent section in the article Andrew mentions) and we shouldn't list it under the Barnier BLP just because nobody has created the necessary proper prose for it.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The issue that we have NOTNEWS problems is the idea event must be distilled into a new article, but that has never been a requirement for ITN posting. Is this event worthy of its own article? Ignoring ISE logic, right now it feels it is part of of larger picture related to the Barnier govt, since the the no confidence vote was a result in that. It makes far more sense to this to be the coda of the existing Barnier government article (which is nowhere close to being too long to include) rather than a separate article that would require adding more context that already exists in the Barnier govt article. I agree the BLP article is probably not the best target, but a new article is also not required when there is a clear suitable article right there already. Masem (t) 19:02, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now due to lack of article This probably already counts for ITN/R (as many have already noted), and even without that this is already significant for being the first time since 1962 that a French government lost a no-confidence motion. All the more reason then that there should be a separate article for this, because that same 1962 motion has been at least covered under the 1962 French presidential election referendum, and more recently the ITN blurb for Imran Khan's deposition in April 2022 also bolded the No-confidence motion against Imran Khan article. Yo.dazo (talk) 16:21, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose because this is notable in France and I put it in 2024, but this hasn't led to a new head of government being appointed. Barnier is still the caretaker PM. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As many have said above this, this only means that this doesn't count as WP:ITN/R. To me at least, being the first time a French government was dissolved by a no-confidence vote since 1962 is enough for WP:ITNSIGNIF. Yo.dazo (talk) 20:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Barnier has resigned as PM of France. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can we have an update here? Either post it or don't, but it's not really "news" anymore... Tim O'Doherty (talk) 20:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ITN is not a news ticker, we are not required to post things in a hasty manner. That part of france's govt still remains collapsed, so this is still very relevant. — Masem (t) 20:35, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The nomination is about the VONC, not the continuing travails of the French government. If it is posted soon then it will have been twenty-six hours since: either modify the blurb or close the discussion. We shouldn't be "hasty", but we equally shouldn't be letting news discussions run into a third day. There's no point. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I agree with Masem - no need for hastiness. Also: Macron just announced a couple of hours ago that he will nominate a new PM "in the coming days". We might as well wait for the nomination of the new PM, and then fold the vote of no confidence into the blurb. Khuft (talk) 21:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA administrator

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Article: Jared Isaacman (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Jared Isaacman (pictured) is nominated by Donald Trump as the next administrator of NASA. (Post)
News source(s): (Bloomberg) (Reuters)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Significant because Jared Isaacman is the first nominee that is not a politician nor have any NASA experience. However, he is significantly involved with SpaceX and the private space industry. WhatisMars (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Brian Thompson

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Article: Brian Thompson (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/nyregion/brian-thompson-uhc-ceo-shot
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: CEO of United Healthcare, insurance company QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose as the article about him was just created today and looking through older news, I don't see any type of coverage that would have made him notable before this shooting, this failing BLP1E. And while we could consider the event as possibly notable, there's very little known as to motive to make a good article on it.Masem (t) 15:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Given that he technically does have an article now, I think he passes notability if there's enough info to expand the article. Until then, it's not ready. Estreyeria (talk) 15:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. It's currently a half step above a stub and there are legitimate 1E concerns. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:23, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support there is an AP article out now that talks about his life before he was assassinated, but I understand the concerns that he didn't really get much media coverage before he was killed. Scuba 20:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean Oppose I'm not too sure if Thompson is really notable other than his death. He isn't that widely known as the CEO of UnitedHealth and thus the article may violate WP:BLP1E. INeedSupport :3 04:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nfitz, 331dot, Alsoriano97, BD2412, and MtPenguinMonster: the other RD/blurb for Brian Thompson was closed, so you all should (re)comment here. Natg 19 (talk) 06:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article looks significantly improved and very well referenced; it's good to go. And I'm seeing a lot more media reports about this death, than many that are listed at RD. Some of the opposition above seems to not have any weight, as if an article for a person exists, then it's the quality of the article that's the issue; not a debate their notability! Nfitz (talk) Nfitz (talk) 07:48, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article seems to be well-cited, and cover a decent breadth of the subject's life & career; a very solid Start-class article, (and potentially well on its way to a C-class in the coming days at this rate) thus passing the threshold for RD. Also, while the article didn't exist until this person's death, that does not really speak of WP:SINGLEEVENT, and more just to how many people who do meet the notability threshold for WP slip through the cracks just because they don't happen to be prominent in the fields presently-active Wikipedians care about. Being specifically named in a pretty sizable insider trading prosecution definitely adds another dimension, and he was in a position that arguably gave him more power than a single member of perhaps any country's legislature. So I'm disinclined to put much worry in any 1E concerns; it almost feels as if those citing them as their "oppose" are neglecting to notice the rest of this person's history as a result of this article only cropping up in the past 24 hours. Nottheking (talk) 08:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, take out the events from yesterday, and what you are left with is an article that fails WP:N and WP:NBIO. The coverage of his life that has come out after his death is very superficial, and most of it is stuff that is more in conjunction with his function as CEO of UHC, which is not an aspect of notability related to the person themselves but of UHC. I looked myself for sources on him as a person published before the events of yesterday, and there was only weak primary sources (noting him becoming CEO) This is exactly the type of scenario that WP:BLP1E is meant to avoid, where after death there may be some coverage but no indication that the person was notable before death. As I noted in the other nomination, if anything, this is something that should be covered in the UHC article, not a separate article for a weakly notable event and non-notable individual. — Masem (t) 13:05, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - It seems incredible that a person of this significance and a story of this magnitude would fail BLP1E, but here we are. This is where Wikipedia's rules have the right of it. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:47, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, very obviously a topic of significance receiving international coverage. Morgan695 (talk) 17:28, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chiung Yao

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Article: Chiung Yao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, TVBS
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Taiwanese romance novelist. 240F:7A:6253:1:1945:DA90:79BF:B3FA (talk) 11:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 3

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections


2024 XA1 impact

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Article: 2024 XA1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: 2024 XA1 impacts Earth over eastern Siberia. (Post)
News source(s): [1] [2]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Not sure if this is notable enough, but being a meteoroid that struck inhabited areas and was witnessed by many, I will nominate this. 11th successfully predicted impact ever. Elios Peredhel (talk) 07:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Good faith nom, but it's hard to find the ITN justification here. While it's still novel to accurately predict a meteroid's impact with Earth before it happens, it's already far from a "first," and outside of this, has seemingly little for ramifications. It'd be an excellent DYK candidate, however. Nottheking (talk) 08:23, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Namibian general election

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Article: 2024 Namibian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Netumbo Nandi-Ndaitwah (pictured) is elected as President of Namibia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Netumbo Nandi-Ndaitwah (pictured) is announced the winner of the 2024 Namibian general election
Alternative blurb II: Netumbo Nandi-Ndaitwah (pictured) is announced the winner of the disputed 2024 Namibian general election
News source(s): (Al Jazeera) (BBC)
Credits:
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Needs some updating, I will try and attend to this when I’m home from work this evening. Updated, aftermath section added. The election was called for Nandi-Ndaitwah earlier today by major networks, amid the counting process. She is set to become Namibia’s first female president. Ornithoptera (talk) 20:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • soft oppose results still coming in, even the articles cited by nominator note that the election is being disputed. not sure why they'd treat it as if Netumbo uncontroversially won. Scuba 21:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please keep in mind WP:AGF. It was not my intention to imply such a thing. In terms of the vote count, it is 90 percent in, and preliminary investigations by the African Union didn’t note any sort of discrepancies thus far. Seems like Itula challenged the previous election results as well, but I’m not familiar regarding the blurb's wording if the previous presidential election was on ITN. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry if I sounded accusational, but the general rule of thumb is that if there is any doubt in an election results to word the ITN blurb along the lines of "was declared the winner of" instead of "won the". Scuba 01:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Changing vote to support the article has been updated. Scuba 15:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hold but support when final results are declared This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is an election of a country's head of state and government. 99.18% of the vote is in and with almost 58% of that vote going to Netumbo, it seems clear the remaining votes will not be enough to change the outcome. I think this is safe to post. Gelasin (talk) 03:58, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mohamed Ali Yusuf

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Article: Mohamed Ali Yusuf (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Idil News)(Garowe Online) (Hiiraan Online)
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: former Puntland vice president and Minister of Finance died on December 3, coverage of his death confirmed. The overall article seems well-sourced with reliable and primary citations needed for nominations.

  • Soft support article lacks any sense of prose, just being bullet points, and there is a random map for some reason, but everything is properly cited. Scuba 16:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Particular thanks to @Alsoriano97 and @Sahaib who removed unnecessary random maps. QalasQalas (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On one hand, it's WP:PROSELINE, on the other hand, it's hard to get the article to a much better state considering that not every country has a strong press. Bremps... 19:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 South Korean martial law

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Article: 2024 South Korean martial law (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declares martial law. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The South Korean National Assembly votes to lift the declaration of martial law by President Yoon Suk Yeol.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The South Korean National Assembly unanimously voted to lift the declaration of martial law after President Yoon Suk Yeol declares it a couple of hours earlier.
Alternative blurb III: ​ South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol attempts to declare martial law.
News source(s): CNN

 Theparties (talk) 14:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Major liberal democracy has the army occupying the capital city, martial law being declared with the national assembly suspended. Government taking control of media, political activities banned. This is massive and should be posted. But we definitely need more details ASAP, it seems like nobody knows what the hell is going on in South Korea right now PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Until it is more clear what is going on. Gust Justice (talk) 15:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support First declaration of martial law since South Korea's democratization. Still left to be seen if it'll last, but this is a major event being broadcast by a lot of news anchors. Dyaquna (talk) 16:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support big international news. Scuba 16:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean Support The martial law only lasted for around 2 hours but declaring it in the first place is already significant enough. It's very rare for martial law to take effect in general. INeedSupport :3 17:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added an alt blurb to reflect the sudden lift. INeedSupport :3 17:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for obvious reasons, but wait until the event ends.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bold Rephrase to "lift the state of martial law" instead of "lift the martial law". QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 18:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Neale Fraser

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Article: Neale Fraser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Australian tennis player. 240F:7A:6253:1:DCB8:3AB4:6112:814C (talk) 10:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Debbie Mathers

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Article: Debbie Mathers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent, People, Rolling Stone
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mother of Eminem, wrote autobiography My Son Marshall, My Son Eminem🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 10:40, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Well-cited enough to be postable. Fair-use image might needed to be removed per WP:F7. Bremps... 17:50, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lucjan Brychczy

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Article: Lucjan Brychczy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Polish Radio
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Significant figure in his homeland Abcmaxx (talk) 09:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) The moving sofa problem has been solved

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Article: Moving sofa problem (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The moving sofa problem has been solved (Post)
News source(s): arXiv
Credits:

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 02:37, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I've loved the Hammersley sofa gif in the article ever since I saw it and would love this article to be on the front page, but no third-party recognition shown. Wouldn't be opposed if some shows up. Blythwood (talk) 02:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Even ignoring the questionable nature of how significant this is, this is not yet a peer-reviewed published paper, nor covered by the news, so it fails on several counts. --Masem (t) 03:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Problems get solved all the time. The invention of plastic furniture movers that are placed under the legs of a sofa has done more for my upholstery transportation woes than this solution ever will and we didn't blurb those (although, now that I mention it...) Departure– (talk) 03:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on notability as per Masem. This is not yet peer-reviewed, nor covered by news. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Ongoing:Middle Eastern crisis

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Article: Middle Eastern crisis (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:
 SuperbowserX (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's elaboration: I suggest to update the Ongoing section to specify the broader Middle-Eastern Crisis, and group both the Israel-Hamas and Israel-Hezbollah conflicts under it in brackets, rather than have them be separate bullet points. Right now, the two events are listed separately in the Ongoing section as "Israel–Hamas warIsraeli invasion of Lebanon". My suggestion is we change this to "Middle Eastern crisis (Israel–Hamas warIsraeli invasion of Lebanon)", as both events are happening in the broader context of this crisis and their regional implications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperbowserX (talkcontribs)

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Spade-toothed whale

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Article: Spade-toothed whale (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first dissection of an intact spade-toothed whale (specimen pictured) begins in New Zealand (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The seventh known specimen of the spade-toothed whale is dissected in New Zealand
News source(s): ABC Australia
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Seems of a similar nature and ballpark to the Iberian lynx blurb we posted a few months ago. Dissection is perhaps not the most relevant part of this story, but would be a nice break from the ITNR and war blurbs. The discovery/impact seems ITN-worthy, especially from an encyclopedia vs news-ticker standpoint. AviationFreak💬 17:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now - There are a whole lot of scientific advances I'd prioritize posting before the first dissection of a rare whale, let alone the start of it. I definitely agree, though, it seems every new blurb is an election where the incumbent loses or a war cycling. Departure– (talk) 17:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sadly the update is a bit sparse for now. The July updates were great tho, so if we're featuring it for that... that could be reasonable but a bit unusual. (image is amazing of course). I would love to support, but I think we need to add some prelimenary results of the disection first if such a thing can exist. It's a bit of a non-story right now. Common problem in the sciences of course. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 21:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Irish general election

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Article: 2024 Irish general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Irish general election, Fianna Fáil wins a plurality of seats in the Dáil Éireann. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Fianna Fáil wins the most seats in the Dáil Éireann following the Irish general election but does not achieve a majority
Alternative blurb II: Fianna Fáil wins the most seats in the Dáil Éireann following the Irish general election but their ruling coalition with Fine Gael and The Greens does not achieve a majority
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Previous nomination resulted in consensus to wait until we have a winner; looks to be the case now. Coalition talks could be lengthy given Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael together are 2 seats short of a majority (88 seats), and the Greens have been reduced to just 1 seat (from 12 previously). Needs an aftermath section. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:54, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - looks good to me. Don't think there's any need to go into the coalition's seats beyond just FF winning the most. estar8806 (talk) 14:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: the 'electoral system' section lacks citations. Most of that is uncontroversial but nevertheless should be supported with references. The 'aftermath' section is a bigger problem, with several paragraphs on the implications for different parties that completely lack sources. The rest of the article is in good shape, but those two sections need fixing before posting. Modest Genius talk 16:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose, will change to support once uncited section is addressed, per Modest Genius. Apart from that, everything checks out. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Khalil Ahmad (politician)

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Article: Khalil Ahmad (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dawn
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Needs expansion. Ainty Painty (talk) 03:18, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, article is stubby. Aydoh8[contribs] 03:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Craig Rich

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Article: Craig Rich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent stalwart at BBC as a renowned meteorologist. Abishe (talk) 21:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) 2024 Nzérékoré stampede

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Article: 2024 Nzérékoré stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: At least 56 people have died and dozens of others were injured in a crowd crush during a football match at the Stade du 3 Avril in Nzérékoré, southern Guinea. (Post)
Alternative blurb: A crowd crush during a football match at the Stade du 3 Avril in Nzérékoré, Guinea, injures scores of people, resulting in at least 56 deaths.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Breaking news out of a country that is very difficult to find credible news reports from. Needs major expansion and Stade du 3 Avril article, details of the match that took place and aftermath section once the situation becomes more clear. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, seems to be a good length, high death toll
Kowal2701 (talk) 16:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mass casualty event, tragic news. Article is of sufficient quality. Bremps... 19:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I came here to check why this isn't in ITN already! Renerpho (talk) 08:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stadium article created as stub at Stade du 3 Avril. Renerpho (talk) 08:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Admins willing to post ITN: looks good to go now. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Terry Griffiths

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Article: Terry Griffiths (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, Sky Sports
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Welsh professional snooker player, coach and pundit. World champion (1979). Article is an FA. Fats40boy11 (talk) 06:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Horrible news. Great man. Support inclusion in ITN. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 07:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ian Redpath

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Article: Ian Redpath (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian former international cricketer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: Syrian Civil War

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Article: Syrian civil war (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Yeah so basically things r getting pretty serious now with 3 offensives ongoing (SNA, SSG, some various southern rebel groups) so i figured now would be a good time to nominate for ongoing. P.S. if i messed up the nom sorry it’s my first time nominating User:Ion.want.uu

would it be better than for me to close this nom then reopen with the suggested NW Offensive? Ion.want.uu (talk) 06:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would wait until the current posted blurb concerning the offensive falls off. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:40, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for the current blurb to roll off, then support given the concurrent Southern Syria offensive (2024). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Romanian parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Romanian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Romanian parliamentary election, the incumbent Social Democratic Party, led by Victor Negrescu (pictured), wins the most seats in both the Chamber of Deputies and Senate. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITN/R, national parliamentary election. Incumbent broke the year-long trend with elections and won, however, there are still coalition talks as to the exact composition of the government. Scuba 15:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Presidential pardon to Hunter Biden

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Article: List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the president of the United States (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Hunter Biden, convicted on federal gun and tax evasion charges, is pardoned by his father, U.S. President Joe Biden. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Hunter Biden (pictured) is pardoned by his father, President Joe Biden, for all crimes "he has committed or may have committed or taken part in" over a period from January 1 2014 to December 1 2024
News source(s): AP Financial Times The Economist CNN
Credits:

Article updated
 45.164.174.27 (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It's only being trumpeted between conservative and some extreme liberal voices complaining that Biden said he wouldn't do it in the first place. Hunter has been used as a political pawn and it's very much internal US politics that have little large term impacts. Masem (t) 00:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dismissing the pardon as insignificant overlooks its broader implications. The pardon of a sitting president’s child is a highly unprecedented event. Moreover, ignoring or downplaying the significance of a president pardoning his son blocks public scrutiny to the case, eroding Wikipedia's transparency as a free encyclopedia. It’s an event that speaks to transparency, fairness, and the potential for conflicts of interest, which affect the world's major power. The claim that "it’s only being trumpeted by conservative and extreme liberal voices" suggests that those who disagree with this action are merely a fringe group, which is a gross oversimplification (despite those two groups technically making up over half of the population). By framing the situation in such binary, partisan terms, you ignore the legitimate concerns of the broader public, many of whom may feel uncomfortable with such an unprecedented move regardless of their political affiliation, not even mentioning that there are 4 sources linked there, and none of them can be labeled as conservatives nor extremely liberal. It is essential to separate political leanings from legitimate critiques of power and authority. These concerns are not about "political pawn" narratives—they’re about ensuring checks and balances in governance, something that is central to any healthy democracy. Furthermore, the argument that this is a minor issue with "little long-term impact" fails to understand the symbolic significance of this act. Dismissing the matter as insignificant risks trivializing an important issue that could have far-reaching effects on the public's trust in their leaders. By not addressing this transparently, we allow a culture of impunity to develop—something that harms everybody. In conclusion, minimizing or disregarding the significance of such an unprecedented act is both naive and dangerous.45.164.174.27 (talk) 05:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Given how much criticism there exists on Trump's incoming administration, including those who he had already pardoned, this action by Biden is extremely small in the larger picture of things. It is not going to change the course of US politics one iota from the path it is currently on. It is not WP's place to right great wrongs, or in this case, to call out on the hypocrisy of what Biden promised verses what he actually did, and thus to question the public's trust in US leadership. Masem (t) 05:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Masem. Little to no long term impact. Wikipedia is not obligated to show every news item in ITN, and posting or not posting is not an issue of transparency. Natg 19 (talk) 06:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt it's not every day that the President of the United States pardons his son of any and all crimes, both known and unknown, over a decade long period, especially after promising to not to. Scuba 06:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is far from the most controversial presidential pardon in US history. The Kip (contribs) 06:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - good-faith nom but very little long-term significance, especially on a global scale. estar8806 (talk) 14:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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November 30

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RD: Marianne Preger-Simon

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Article: Marianne Preger-Simon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Recorder
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Pioneer of Modern Dance in the US, later psychotherapist, - the article was mostly there, missing details about husband and two children though. First indication that she died came on 30 November. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lou Carnesecca

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Article: Lou Carnesecca (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:
Article updated
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2024 Copa Libertadores final

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Article: 2024 Copa Libertadores final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Botafogo wins the Copa Libertadores after defeating Atlético Mineiro in the final. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Botafogo defeats Atlético Mineiro to win the Copa Libertadores final.
News source(s): ge, Uol, AP, beIN, Forbes
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The image could also be this one, of Luiz Henrique, who scored the first goal of the match and was elected MVP of the final and of the competition. Solon 26.125 05:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support itnr. Probably post motm instead of club logo. 27.96.223.193 (talk) 05:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality missing aftermath section. Given Botafogo is showing that scrapping the long-established existing system of ownership prevalent throughout South America with the introduction of private investment is bearing results, this looks (for now at least) like a turning point; the article should mention this. Also the fact that Atlético Mineiro were clear favourites and did much better throughout the tournament until the disastrous final isn’t made clear either. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Abcmaxx hard to say Atlético were favorites - Brazilian media were not considering it as such, since despite Atlético's better campaign at the Libertadores, Botafogo leads the Brazilian Championship and may become its champion next Wednesday. There is a section on their road to the final as well. Also, both teams became privately owned, Botafogo is not the only one showing its results. Solon 26.125 22:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Solon26125: I stand corrected, but this is why what you said above should be included in the article, rather than just a simple match report. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Georgian post-election protests

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Article: 2024 Georgian post-election protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Protests erupt in Georgia after its government formally announces the country will suspend its application for EU membership. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Re-nominating as more comprehensive article has been created and previous nomination withdrawn. Protests have severely escalated, widespread police brutality akin to the 2020 Belarusian protests. The president has called the government illegitimate, which is very unusual. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:36, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support hopefully they can stop their oligarchs from trying to abolish their sovereignty. Scuba 03:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support on notability. This seems like a reverse January 6 to me, an American, with the president and a large number of protestors (and what seem to be a larger proportion of the civilian population) rejecting their recent election's results. Oppose on quality - everything's cited but it could definitely stand to be better organized. Departure– (talk) 04:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Make that strong oppose on quality - I just now noticed the amount of cn tags. Departure– (talk) 04:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality only. There's definitely violence associated with this, and the EU membership withdrawl itself is also newsworthy. But as noted, the article has many unsourced paragraphs, and I would urge those that want to see this posted to try to avoid day-by-day blows and try to write how the protests happened more narratively. --Masem (t) 04:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on significance. Lean oppose on quality for now, though the target article and blurb are better than the previous nomination. This reminds me of Euromaidan and the colour revolutions. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 04:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I no longer object to the quality of the article, although there is still some room for improvement. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 07:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on significance. The quality is not perfect but seems to be improving; didn't spot any cn tags now. Yakikaki (talk) 21:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support: Notable event; quality is slowly improving. Elios Peredhel (talk) 04:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The protests haven't yet succeeded to make any significant changes in country's politics, and the violence hasn't resulted in deaths and destruction of cultural monuments. The right to protest is one of the fundamental human rights, so a protest isn't notable for inclusion per se. As for the "suspended application for EU membership", this is a POV-pushing incorrect statement as it appears that the accession talks were only postponed. Moreover, even if the accession talks were suspended, they would have absolutely zero impact on the EU (frankly speaking, it's not a withdrawal from the EU like Brexit).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    They are burning effigies of Ivanishvili and firing fireworks at the parliament building, and Georgian Dream offices are being demolished. Police are beating men, women and minors alike to a pulp in the street in plain view. Protests don't have to be successful to be posted, the 2020 Belarusian protests were posted, and they weren't successful at all. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The significance of those protests was that they happened in a dictatorship where authorities supress any form of democratic movement and there were no protests of that scale since country's independence. Georgia is more democratic than Belarus and has a history of similar protests in the past, so these protests aren't really that special for now. Burning effigies, firing fireworks and demolishing offices are regular activities conducted during violent protests everywhere around the globe. Unless there are confirmed deaths, severely damaged cultural and historical landmarks, or real changes in country's politics, I don't think these protests are ready for posting (article's quality aside).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Giving the last elections were equally quite blatantly falsified, the president has called the Georgian Dream, a party which wants to outlaw all opposition parties, a "rogue government", and what we are currently seeing is the authorities supressing any form of democratic movement, there is little difference between the two. The only difference is that Belarus has been a dictatorship since 1995 and not 2024. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that there's clearly a democratic backsliding in Georgia mostly because of the 'foreign agent' law, but I'm unsure to what extent the election results were falsified (if falsified at all). I spent almost two weeks travelling around Georgia last year and got a different picture than the one presented by the Western media. The majority of people acknowledged that they had to maintain normal relations with Russia due to the economic dependence and fear from potential Russian invasion. My conclusion was that many Georgians support Georgian Dream simply because they don't want a Ukrainian scenario or an economic collapse in case they introduce sanctions as requested by the EU (Note that Russia is one of Georgia's largest trade partners, many Russians visit Georgia and spend a lot of money there, and Russia is home to the largest Georgian diaspora in the world.). In other words, Georgia's geopolitics without a land border with the EU is such that they have to maintain good relations with Russia. That being said, I don't trust Western media about the situation in Georgia at all, especially the labels that not being pro-EU automatically means pro-Russian, and I believe that the election results were not falsified to the extent to change the winner (Moreover, there are only accusations from the opposition parties that the results were falsified with no proof, and international observers refrained from declaring that the election was free and fair or that there was an electoral fraud.). This is my opinion built upon my personal experience from visiting Georgia. Others may have other opinions.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Georgia is a close-knit society, with a small population. The country is full of KGB agents and people with pro-Russian interests. Unless you are Georgian or at least speak the language then the locals will not tell you the whole story in order to safeguard themselves. Many still remember the 2008 invasion, or the upheaval in the 90s. A third of the country is still occupied by Russia. The Georgian Dream has around 30-35% electoral support, which is significant, but no way do they have majority popular support, and the generational divide is very wide, as the younger population are staunchly pro-European. The pro-Russian element is to do with oligarch money, which they are using to buy power. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:46, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bob Bryar

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Article: Bob Bryar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Post CNN Rolling Stone
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former drummer for My Chemical Romance Tthrashbandicoot01 (talk) 22:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose Equipment section has no citations, but once that's fixed should be good to post. PolarManne (talk) 23:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2024 Irish general election

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Article: 2024 Irish general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Irish general election results in a hung parliament between Sinn Féin, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Irish general election, (Party XYZ) wins a plurality of seats in the Dáil Éireann.
News source(s): The Guardian
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Nominator's comments: It looks like a 3-way tie and it will be a while before any coalition talks and a government is formed. Article needs results section to verify expanded and an aftermath section. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article is well-sourced and of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Obviosuly ITNR, but I don't think the blurb is particularly good. I would wait until we have a more definitive idea of how many seats each party will win, and then look at how reliable sources are describing the outcome. In particular, I think it might be preferable for the blurb to mention which party is the largest. Gust Justice (talk) 00:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Owing to the incredibly complex electoral system used in Ireland, this is about the only blurb we can post for a very long time. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe this is a stupid question, but how then do we know the results are going to be close without substantial results, besides the fact that polling SEEMS to show this is the likely result, seemingly similar to last election? DarkSide830 (talk) 04:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't say it's a stupid question DarkSide830. We just don't know without substantial results truthfully. The vote transfers are going to differ from voter to voter, and first preference winner does not necessarily equate to whoever gets the most seats. Sinn Fein topped the polls last election, but didn't nominate enough candidates from what I recall, so their excess preferences flowed to smaller left leaning parties. The final coalition wound up excluding SF altogether. I feel like saying it is a hung parliament is reading the tea leaves a bit early. Per my previous comments, The Guardian's article that was used as the news source for this nomination doesn't even mention a "hung parliament" from what I could see. Ornithoptera (talk) 10:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a comment on the last time we ran the Irish election here, and he said that every election as long as he was alive resulted in a hung parliament; I dunno if that's true, but that's plausible. So this blurb indeed is not particularly good, so I'd suggest to wait until we have an idea on how hung it is, I guess. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:13, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support regardless of coalition talks, we should include the results as they are now. Scuba 03:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait While first preference votes have been counted, Ireland's STV system means that the final seat count for the various parties (which can determine who would be prime for forming the next government) is not. We have a rough guess using the initial preferences, but I would advise that we wait until we have more than the initial preferences to go off of. Another issue is that the article cited for the blurb does not even mention a hung parliament, it only speaks to the exit poll (which wound up showing Sinn Fein on top, despite Fianna Fail placing first) everything's speculative at this point. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until more results come in, per Ornithoptera. Gelasin (talk) 07:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait per others and propose alternative blurb. We shouldn't use "hung parliament" in a non-Westminster context. It makes no sense, as the electoral system is not geared to generate a clear winner. We wouldn't say that the German general election resulted in a hung parliament either. Khuft (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Floods in Malaysia

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Article: 2024–2025 floods in Southeast Asia and South Asia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in Malaysia displace more than 122,000 people. (Post)
News source(s): Channel News Asia

Nominator's comments: Worth for Wikipedia to monitor and consider adding information if it gets worse. 129.126.8.5 (talk) 10:27, 30 November 2024

2024 Icelandic parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Icelandic parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Icelandic parliamentary election, the Social Democratic Alliance, led by Kristrún Frostadóttir (pictured), wins the most seats in the Alþingi. (Post)
News source(s): AP Bloomberg
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITN/R, national parliamentary election. Another incumbent lost, however, there are still coalition talks as to the exact composition of the government. Scuba 15:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support Appears to be in mostly good shape - there's just one paragraph lacking citation in the Electoral System section. As well, some response to the results in the article would be appreciated. Departure– (talk) 15:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support, per above. Some sections lack citations but apart from that it should be pretty much ready to go. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:58, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 29

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RD: Tchinda Andrade

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Article: Tchinda Andrade (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rádio e Televisão de Portugal; Expresso das Ilhas; Radiotelevisão Caboverdiana
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Cape Verdean LGBT activist and the first out trans person in the country. Died on 29 November. Grnrchst (talk) 10:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Alice Hudson

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Article: Alice Hudson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American librarian and cartographic curator. Died on November 6. Death reported November 29. TJMSmith (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Withdrawn) 2024 Georgian pro-European protests

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Article: 2024 Georgian pro-European protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Protests erupt in Georgia after its government formally announces the country will no longer pursue EU membership. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
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Nominator's comments: Nominating to draw attention to it, this will likely be ongoing for a very long time given EU accession is enshrined in the country's constitution and that the falsified elections weren't overturned. Previous protests werent posted only because the article wasn't made in time and it failed on quality, although since has been expanded, hoping for help of others on this to avoid the sane fate. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would reword the blurb as "... formally announces the country will suspend its application for EU membership". According to this article, the PM said that the negotiations were on hold until the end of 2028, but that the government would still aim for EU membership by 2030; maybe one could cynically claim that this amounts to the same thing in practice, but let's stick to what the government "formally announced".

I agree that the stub as it currently stands is obviously not sufficient to post. I would be open to supporting based on significance, but it's still a bit early to judge how important these protests will end up being. Does anyone know how many protesters there are/were, for one basic metric? The sources I've found just say "thousands". 98.170.164.88 (talk) 01:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless some escalation in protests will happen. So far nothing serious is happened yet. Btw Georgia's EU accession process was suspended in July[7]. Currently government just formally accept reality that in near future accession is unlikely. But main goal to join EU in 2030 is still not abandoned. 46.188.18.196 (talk) 02:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment 107 arrests, widespread brutality, 2nd night of unrest with no signs of abating, so I strongly disagree this isn’t serious, there's hundreds of videos circulating of police bearing defenceless children and women in the street. Will try and expand later, help is welcome. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Notre-Dame reopening

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Article: Notre-Dame fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Notre-Dame cathedral (pictured in 2024) in Paris reopens following reconstruction in the wake of the 2019 fire. (Post)
News source(s): AP, CNN, WasPost
Credits:
Nominator's comments: The fire artricle is in good shape, and we could also link the cathedral itself (I only see a couple tagged things). That said, while the official opening to the public is next week on the 7th, Macron gave a large, widely-covered tour today to unveil the new interior prior to that opening. I can see holding off until next week to post, but I think we're getting the bigger coverage now (and given the dates, we're past the CRYSTAL point and the opening has little likelihood of not happening). It would be nice to get new interior pictures but I believe those will be subject to copyright, and I don't see any immediately new image of the cathedral in the last couple months, post-reconstruction. Masem (t) 17:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Von der Leyen Commission II

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Article: Von der Leyen Commission II (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The European Parliament confirms the new European Commission led by Ursula Von der Leyen (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): Deutsche Welle
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Nominator's comments: New supranational government, in office until 2029, of political significance equal to a change of national government. Will take office on 1 December 2024. Sandstein 10:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)  Sandstein 10:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - This is a purely procedural matter. Kiril is right that her election was the thing to post; we could have posted her re-election too, but the fact that we didn't isn't by itself justification for posting this lesser event. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Kiril and Genevieve; the window for posting was when the election occurred, not at the time when the term actually started. It would be a slippery slope to allow "oh, we missed it, lets post here instead"-type logic for ITNR items (which I am pretty sure the election would have been treated as). --Masem (t) 14:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This misses the point that this is actually a notable story anyway with a good article that's in the news. AusLondonder (talk) 14:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All articles related to UK and US politics are in very good shape. It doesn't mean that we should make concessions to post similar procedural events there.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, this article isn't in good shape- it has way too many tables compared to text content, and is orange tagged for section needing update. And it's based on an election event that is stale. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as we usually don't post about government formation of ministers, just heads of state and government.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above Setarip (talk) 19:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 28

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(Posted) RD/Blurb: Silvia Pinal

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Article: Silvia Pinal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Mexican actress Silvia Pinal (pictured) dies at the age of 93. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, USA Today, CNN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Actor of the Mexican Golden Age film era. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 00:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Northwestern Syria offensive (2024)

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Article: Northwestern Syria offensive (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Syrian opposition launches an offensive for the first time since the 2020 ceasefire. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Syrian opposition enters Aleppo in the first offensive since the 2020 ceasefire.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Turkish-backed militants enter Aleppo, Syria in the the first offensive since the 2020 ceasefire.
News source(s): CNNAP The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: First major offensive since the 2020 ceasefire, over 25 villages and towns taken, the rebels are also at the door of Aleppo again. We might want to also add this to ongoing. Scuba 15:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wanted to note that Aleppo has been captured entirely according to NBC, NPR, and CNN. Should the ITN be updated? 76.103.210.133 (talk) 02:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tom Hughes (Australian politician)

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Article: Tom Hughes (Australian politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian barrister and politician Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support only one cn tag. Scuba 15:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Article sourcing is in reasonable shape. I T B F 📢 15:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per above comments. TheScrubby (talk) 14:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Prince Johnson

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Article: Prince Johnson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Liberian warlord Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oppose 7 cn tags, article needs work. Scuba 15:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing removal: Israeli Invasion of Lebanon

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Article: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: Ceasefire was signed. Interstellarity (talk) 14:22, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would at least wait a few days, letting the ceasefire news stabilize for a bit, as well as to actually make sure the ceasefire holds. Also, as this is only a 60-day ceasefire, we may need to be prepared to readd it in late Jan/early Feb. if hostilies immediately flare back up. --Masem (t) 14:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait for 60 days. There are still Israeli soldiers in Lebanon. Grimes2 (talk) 14:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Israel is still prohibiting the return of Lebanese civilians, and has threatened to pick up hostilities again. We should wait and see if they're serious about the ceasefire. Scuba 15:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't say there is a ceasefire, but rather that Israel and Lebanon agreed to one. Secondly, ceasefires can happen during invasions: eg see 2023 Israel–Hamas ceasefire amid the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There are Israeli troops on the ground still and alleged violations of the ceasefire
Personisinsterest (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: there was an airstrike today. Israel interprets the "ceasefire" agreement that allows it to continue attacking Lebanon. Israeli troops are still inside Lebanon and preventing Lebanese from returning home[8].VR (Please ping on reply) 20:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Both Israel and Hezbollah are supposedly violating the ceasefire agreement, with Israel yet to withdraw troops. [9] [10] Aydoh8[contribs] 03:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 60 days is not a lot of time for a ceasefire. Anything can happen within those 60 days and tensions are still high. If it becomes more permanent, then I support removal. INeedSupport :3 03:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Israeli troops are yet to be called back - and there are also alleged violations of the ceasefire The AP (talk) 09:34, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Ananda Krishnan

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Article: Ananda Krishnan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Malaysian business mogul and founder of Usaha Tegas240F:7A:6253:1:E494:F12F:1DF4:BC0B (talk) 12:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Career section orange tagged as it is entirely unsourced. Scuba 15:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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