Talk:Craigslist

Number of employees

The number of employees listed in the article (50) is quite out of date (2017). I could not find a more recent source but that doesn't mean there isn't one. There has been a lore that Craiglist is run with a small number of employees, but clearly their number has grown. In 2006 it was 23, and in 2022 Craig Newmark said "It’s in the 10s" (i.e. fewer than 100).

Glassdoor currently lists the company as having "51-200" employees. Would that be a better number to include in the side bar since that 2017 number is 7 years old? --107.190.43.119 (talk) 03:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

What is Glassdoor's source of information? Go with the 2022 interview: 10-99. Chino-Catane (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Flagging Missed Connections Addition

Ironically, trying to add this info resulted in threats of an edit war and bans. My change was reverted supposedly because forums cannot be cited, violating REVERT ONLY WHEN NECESSARY: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary If the citation is the only issue, why not leave up the rest? Literally the next sentence is worse, uncited entirely. The problem of course is this only happens on the forums. Further, the reverter went on my talk page to threaten a ban.

Original addition: " Some users allege the Missed Connection section has had lower requirements for removal, and is effectively just a trash bin for personals violations, or at best a miscategorized services reference section (without any evidence), likely resulting in discrimination as otherwise identical (just race, gender, etc. differences) and proper Missed Connection ads are left up for weeks. "

Very next sentence: " Some users allege that flagging may also occur as acts of vandalism by groups of individuals at different ISPs, but no evidence of this has ever been shown. Flagging can also alert Craigslist staff to blocks of ads requiring manual oversight or removal. "

Note the reference in that next sentence doesn't even exist, and is used throughout the flagging section!

" Flagging does not require account login or registration, and can be done anonymously by anyone. Postings are subject to automated removal when a certain number of users flag them. The number of flags required for a posting's removal is dynamically variable and remains unknown to all but Craigslist staff. Some users allege that flagging may also occur as acts of vandalism by groups of individuals at different ISPs, but no evidence of this has ever been shown. Flagging can also alert Craigslist staff to blocks of ads requiring manual oversight or removal. "

Then this gets flagged, effectively, the irony...

Should I remove that entire paragraph then, since it is just as "bad" as my addition? I am discussing here first.

References

Why does this entry lack author attribution and a date? Chino-Catane (talk) 18:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

User:Chino-Catane: review the histories. My explanation based on those histories was reverted by the same user who completely and indefinitely banned the author, preventing anyone from answering you:

• 12:59, 4 July 2024‎ Bbb23 Bbb23 contribs‎  4,683 bytes −4,155‎  Undid revision 1232556578 by 71.34.88.21 (talk) no undo Tag: Undo

71.34.88.21 (talk) 07:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The unsigned entry appears to be an artifact of a dispute between one recalcitrant computer programmer and a group of at least four other intransigent computer programmers. The escalation from block warning to actual indefinite block is both remarkable and concerning. From the view of an objective observer, there exists no self-evident reason why this escalation occurred so rapidly and severely. The initial four edits by GildedBrain appear to be innocuous and cannot, by themselves, explain why they resulted in the block warning and subsequent indefinite block of said editor. The motive for this individual's seemingly benign first edit remains unclear, as there is no link to the mentioned "elite forum war". Perhaps the dispute arose from a preexisting conflict that is now unrecoverable from an outsider's examination of these histories. Chino-Catane (talk) 19:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the excellent analysis, the history is quite confusing! I am curious about a couple of these conclusions, such as the participants’ jobs, but I think the remarkable and concerning indefinite block and now-unrecoverable sources (citable or not) are higher priorities for Wikipedia. I was able to find a couple remaining relevant posts from a “GildedBrain” on the relevant Craigslist official flag forum [[1]] “cl - flag help”

[[2]], responding to others including pointing to relevant Wikipedia articles, and perhaps missed in some cleanup there resulting in similar artifacts. Of course, User:GildedBrain, the original author, may have more complete copies they could share if not blocked, albeit perhaps even more un-citable. 2600:1700:543A:7E10:943A:AC36:C57E:639 (talk) 07:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)