Talk:San Francisco

Question about European arrival

There seem to be two dates in conflict in the article.

One statement is: "...Spanish exploration party arrived on November 2, 1769, the first documented European visit to San Francisco Bay.'

Another is: "The mission received its name in 1776, when it was founded by the Spanish under the leadership of Padre Francisco Palóu." / "On June 29, 1776, settlers from New Spain established the Presidio of San Francisco at the Golden Gate, and the Mission San Francisco de Asís a few miles away, both named for Francis of Assisi."

Spanish must first have arrived in 1776 or earlier to have built "The Mission Dolores adobe chapel, constructed in 1776" Mission San Francisco de Asís?

Can anyone clarify?

I visited recently but don't live in the US. I am researching for something I am writing and noticed this difference. Pakoire (talk) 19:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

The 1769 date refers to the first European exploration of the area - the Portolá expedition - while the 1776 date refers to the settlement of the area. Two different things. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 14:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cristiano Tomás thanks, yes. I think now I look at it again that I was being dyslexic with the numbers actually. It does make sense! Pakoire (talk) 02:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

three separate settlements, in separate places:

• military
• civil
• religious

69.181.17.113 (talk) 19:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Image proposal

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Hello, I've searched for suitable images for the infobox of this article and have found several options I'd like to propose for consideration:

• Image 1: File:Golden Gate Bridge and San Francisco skyline from Hawk Hill at Blue Hour dllu (cropped).jpg, depiction of a panorama of San Francisco similar to the current image but with higher resolution and better contrasts
• Image 2: File:Low Fog in Golden Gate Bridge.jpg, picture captures the Golden Gate Bridge amidst San Francisco fog, with the bridge still being the main subject
  • Alternatively, I found File:Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco (40268274764).jpg or File:Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco (39168876760).jpg, both showing the bridge without fog, although they require cropping
• Image 3: File:Alcatraz 2021.jpg, view on Alcatraz Island
• Image 4: File:San Francisco at dusk.jpg, high quality image of the city skyline

I believe these options could enhance the visual appeal and contribute to the encyclopedic value of the article's infobox. Tobiasi0 (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I'd call this proposal unopposed and insert the images on April 28. –Tobias (talk) 11:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Tobiasi0 I've added the images to this comment as previews, hope that was OK. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 11:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

CanonNi Sure thank you, I just have to change the Alcatraz picture Tobiasi0 (talk) 11:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

we've discussed spamming images in the lead here before please see archive.Moxy🍁 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I did, and the only and first reason I found against a collage was copyrighted material or the incomplete representation of the city showing single buildings, which is not the case here, since I don't have those specific images in my proposal. Additionally, the inclusion of 3 to 4 images in the infobox is anything but 'spam'. –Tobias (talk) 03:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Last thing we want is the scrolling nightmare and teeny mini images like at New York City. Most readers only scroll one time that doesn't even get you halfway through the info box so really people only see the first paragraph of the New York article . 15 images in the lead is a good way to deter readership. Moxy🍁 04:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Moxy like I said, we are talking about 3 to 4 images, not 15. I don't like the infobox images of New York City either. –Tobias (talk) 04:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

"The City" in reference to downtown alone

An edit in 2001 added a line that today appears as, "for residents of San Francisco living in the more suburban parts of the city, 'the City' generally refers to the more densely populated downtown areas around Market Street." I can find nothing in the cited sources to support this, nor could I find even an unreliable confirmation via a cursory Google search. @Member: What is the origin of this assertion? Have you got a source? Ibadibam (talk) 18:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

In absence of a source, I have removed this passage from the article. Ibadibam (talk) 21:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Concur with your removal of that inaccurate text. Thanks for taking care of that! --Coolcaesar (talk) 00:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Ellis Sox (1909-1989), Director (1952-1970) , San Francisco Department of Public Health

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Ellis Sox (1909-1989), Director (1952-1970) , San Francisco Department of Public Health

37 citations at Talk:San_Francisco_Department_of_Public_Health#"Doctor_Sox"_"San_Francisco"_"Director_of_Public_Health"

69.181.17.113 (talk) 19:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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