Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Contested technical requests
- Tromsø → Tromsø Municipality (currently a redirect back to Tromsø) (move · discuss) – use standardized naming for municipalities in Norway - disambiguate from other places with the same name Jay1279 (talk) 18:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jay1279 If the municipality is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, then adding "Municipality" is unnecessary disambiguation. If you're arguing that the city should be the primary topic instead of the municipality, that would require a formal move discussion (click the "discuss" link in your request above). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jay1279 If the municipality is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, then adding "Municipality" is unnecessary disambiguation. If you're arguing that the city should be the primary topic instead of the municipality, that would require a formal move discussion (click the "discuss" link in your request above). --Ahecht (TALK
- Abdülmecid II → Abdulmejid II (currently a redirect back to Abdülmecid II) (move · discuss) – His name is Abdülmecid in modern Turkish not really. for example Mehmed II is in modern Turkish is Mehmet but he was really mehmed and people also know him by that name.People know Abdulmejid II him as Caliph and know him as his name Abdulmejid or Abdulmejid II or Abdulmejid sani. I request to change it to Abdulmejid II Therealbey (talk) 22:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Therealbey: The standard is the common name in English sources. The current title was the result of a requested-move discussion at Talk:Abdülmecid I#Requested move 30 May 2024, so this should not be moved without another requested-move discussion. SilverLocust 💬 04:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- HM Prison Forest Bank → Forest Bank Prison (currently a redirect back to HM Prison Forest Bank) (move · discuss) – New guidance from HMPPS (UK Gov) on naming of Prisons and Young Offender Institutions across England and Wales. No longer appropriate to use HM Prison, HMP, HMYOI or HM YOI. Name itself only followed by Prison and/pr Young Offender Institution. Official-Sensitive (talk) 16:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Official-Sensitive Not necessarily uncontroversial. The majority of sources refer to it as "HMP Prison Forest Bank." See WP:COMMONNAME. I suggest starting a RM discussion. You can do this by clicking "discuss" next to the page link above. C F A 💬 16:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Official-Sensitive: Do you have a link to this guidance? Graham (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Second Mujib Rahman ministry → Second Mujibur Rahman ministry (currently a redirect back to Second Mujib Rahman ministry) (move · discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 16:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hemant Dabral Consistent with what? The only other similarly named article is Third Mujibur Rahman ministry, which you just moved to that title 20 minutes before submitting this request. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)- Have you paid attention to the title of Azizur Rahman ministry, Habibur Rahman ministry, Latifur Rahman ministry etc? — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 15:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I fail to see how those apply when the change you are proposing is to the spelling of "Mujib" vs "Mujibur". To use your first example, Azizur is referred to as "Azizur" throughout his article, whereas Mujibur is referred to as "Mujib" throughout his (as well as in the sources of Second Mujib Rahman ministry). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I fail to see how those apply when the change you are proposing is to the spelling of "Mujib" vs "Mujibur". To use your first example, Azizur is referred to as "Azizur" throughout his article, whereas Mujibur is referred to as "Mujib" throughout his (as well as in the sources of Second Mujib Rahman ministry). --Ahecht (TALK
- Have you paid attention to the title of Azizur Rahman ministry, Habibur Rahman ministry, Latifur Rahman ministry etc? — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 15:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hemant Dabral Consistent with what? The only other similarly named article is Third Mujibur Rahman ministry, which you just moved to that title 20 minutes before submitting this request. --Ahecht (TALK
- Kutub al-Sittah → The Six Books (currently a redirect back to Kutub al-Sittah) (move · discuss) – Moving the Arabic transliterated name to the English name. This is warranted as the equivalent page for the canon of Shia hadith collections is called The Four Books instead of its Arabic equivalent Kutub al-ʾArbaʿa. In addition, google searches for "The Six Books" are over 10x as common (and rising) as searches for "Kutub al-Sittah" (either way this wikipedia page is the top result). https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Kutub+al-Sittah%2CThe+Six+Books&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 Pogenplain (talk) 04:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pogenplain There were two attempts to move this in 2013 at Talk:Kutub_al-Sittah. While it's very likely that usage or opinions could've changed in the last 11 years, it would require a new discussion. Please click the "discuss" link in your request above to open a full move request. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pogenplain There were two attempts to move this in 2013 at Talk:Kutub_al-Sittah. While it's very likely that usage or opinions could've changed in the last 11 years, it would require a new discussion. Please click the "discuss" link in your request above to open a full move request. --Ahecht (TALK
Administrator needed
- Minamoto (clan) (currently a redirect to Minamoto clan) → Minamoto clan (move · discuss) – undiscussed. Could sysop please revert the wholesale undiscussed moving of articles by this particular user, there are too many too list individually here: Special:Contributions/AmyJadeja . Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 22:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Gryffindor Done. Leaving the rest for an admin. C F A 💬 03:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace New name
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 18 July 2024" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:
A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed. |
Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
with current1
set to Wikipedia
and current2
set to Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign the request with ~~~~
, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.
For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1
for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1=
to indicate the first article to be moved.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).
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Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 61 discussions have been relisted.
July 18, 2024
- (Discuss) – J. D. Vance → J.D. Vance – Under MOS:BIOEXCEPT, Vance prefers unspaced initials, according to his Twitter account and the title tag of his Senate website. There are many sources that do not include a space between "J." and "D.", including Politico, NPR, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Reuters, Slate, New York, the Los Angeles Times, and The Economist. Additionally, the about page on Vance's Senate website, his Instagram profile, Trump's WinRed page, the Associated Press, Al Jazeera, CBS News, BBC News, The Independent. PBS News, The Hill, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, NBC News, CNN, ABC News, MSNBC, USA Today, and the Financial Times omit the periods and spaces, so I am not partial towards moving this page to JD Vance. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xi–Li Administration → Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration – There are two premiers under Xi Jinping in China with the exact same surname: Li Keqiang and Li Qiang. Better to specify it here to avoid potential ambiguity. Also, it can be very confusing for people who are not familiar with China politics topics. Wikipedia is meant for all — not only for those who are familiar with the topic. Cfls (talk) 03:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Sun → The Sun (disambiguation) – I know, I know, the last discussion on this exact topic closed with consensus against. But the policy on the matter is clear, and the last discussion barely touched that policy at all. WP:PTOPIC says, first, that
A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.
With the wikinav entry showing that 2/3rds of people who visit the page are looking for Sun, that criterion seems to be met. You can argue that 2/3rds isn't high enough, but it's twice as likely than every other candidate combined. PTOPIC also says thatA topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term.
With all due respect to the newspapers, the Sun meets that criteria with flying colors. I don't see how it could be argued that the thing that sustains all known life doesn't havesubstantially greater enduring notability and educational value
than a couple of moderate-to-large companies. This seems like a pretty clear-cut case to me. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
July 17, 2024
- (Discuss) – Covanta → Reworld – Covanta was renamed to Reworld back in April. Since then, most people have been using the new name. This is not a controversial move, but I'm using this tool to request a move on account of my COI - I work for the article-subject. I'd also like to suggest a redirect from Covanta to the new Reworld title, replacing "Covanta" with "Reworld" throughout, and adding a "(previously known as Covanta)" at the beginning. NKR2009 (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ise Grand Shrine → Ise Shrine – All Jingū shrines are "XYZ Shrine", the term "grand" does not appear in the Japanese name, therefore be consistent and correct. Gryffindor (talk) 23:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stephanie Scully → Steph Scully – Very clear WP:COMMONNAME from article's sources. U-Mos (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Hutchinson (footballer, born 1979) → John Hutchinson (footballer) – Relatively clear cut per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer). 11:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macosal (talk • contribs) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 22:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Umberto I of Italy → Umberto I – While there exists several rulers named Humbert I and Humbert II, the two Umbertos who are kings of Italy seem to be the PRIMARYTOPIC for "Umbertos". Векочел (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:General sanctions/Uyghur genocide → Wikipedia:General sanctions/Uyghurs – I feel like this better reflects the totality of the sanction, which applies to
edits related to Uyghurs, Uyghur genocide, and topics that are related to Uyghurs or Uyghur genocide, all broadly construed
. The base article has also moved to Persecution of Uyghurs in China since the initial sanction was authorized, so I do think it is time to consider moving this. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 19:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – My Cute Guys → Flower Boys Next Door – Common name used by English-language reliable sources seems to be Flower Boys Next Door, even in the sources listed on the article; My Cute Guys seems to be a fanmade title. We should never use titles from URL. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 19:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Debeaking → Beak trimming – WP:COMMONNAME in WP:RS since the 1980s (WP:AGEMATTERS), see Google Ngrams and especially Google Scholar 2000–2024 (WP:AGEMATTERS): "debeaking" 1.630 results versus "beak trimming" / "beak-trimming" 3.740 results (with or without hyphen yields the same results). Some people (in talk page discussions above) have also argued that "debeaking" is a WP:POV term that should be avoided if there is a suitable alternative, and "beak trimming" appears to fit. "Debeaking" can definitely stay an WP:ALTNAME, but we should resolve this NPOV dispute at some point. NLeeuw (talk) 12:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vespina (aircraft) → Airbus Voyager ZZ336 – I am a close watcher of aviation generally and military aviation specifically, and I had no idea what this article title referred to. WP:AT states that when article titles have multiple possibilities, "editors choose among them by considering several principles: the ideal article title precisely identifies the subject; it is short, natural, distinguishable and recognizable; and resembles titles for similar articles." None of those are true to "Vespina (aircraft). Being strictly factual and naming it as <Aircraft (i.e. general type name)> <Registration (denoting specific aircraft> is much clearer. The current name is vague in the extreme. Mark83 (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 16:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slate Islands → Slate Islands (Scotland) – Slate Islands, Scotland -- [changed 13:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC) per comments]
- (Discuss) – Chatsworth station → Chatsworth Transportation Center – In line with other station articles which use their formal names (ex: San Bernardino Transit Center, Fullerton Transportation Center, Irvine Transportation Center) which seems to be the general precedence for naming train station articles. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sněžka → Śnieżka – The mountain, located on the border between Poland and the Czech Republic, is widely recognized by its Polish name, "Śnieżka", in international contexts. The usage of this name aligns with global recognition and common usage in various languages, including English. Śnieżka is the highest peak in the Karkonosze Mountains and a prominent feature in both Poland and the Czech Republic. Given its location and significance, using the Polish name honors its geographical and cultural importance within Poland. Wikipedia’s naming conventions emphasize using the most common name in English, and "Śnieżka" is frequently used in English-language texts and references. This change would thus enhance consistency and recognizability for English-speaking users. Other geographical features with dual names often default to the version that holds the most international recognition. Renaming the article to "Śnieżka" follows this precedent and ensures coherence across Wikipedia entries. Paradygmaty (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Indictment and arrest of Julian Assange → United States v. Assange – Assange pleaded guilty and the case is over. Page should be about US case and arrest and bail should stay for background Softlem (talk) 08:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thunderbird (mythology) → Thunderbird (spirit) – Proposed above with a reasonable rationale, and most sources appear to refer to them as spirits, rather than mythological creatures like griffins, etc.. For example, see History.com, Brittanica, and this story by Audobon. Technically a mythological creature but substantially not. Proposing because @D L Means seems new and is unlikely to. Tagging @Mr Fink from above. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – British support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war → United Kingdom and the Israel–Hamas war – Not only match two other articles, Qatar and the United States about their role in this war, but a word like "support" isn't neutral even if the UK policy is to support Israel in this conflict. The article does make mention of opposition to the government support for Israel, therefore this isn't solely about support for Israel. The title should be reflected in a more precise manner than an outright position of support or opposition in the title. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 08:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Turkey Wealth Fund → Türkiye Wealth Fund – Correct name as per the English website https://www.tvf.com.tr/en/home 193.40.55.75 (talk) 06:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinese people → ? – I think this article should be moved to another title, possibly something like 'Chinese people (national)', and then the current title redirected to the 'Chinese' disambiguation page, because 'Chinese people' could equally refer to this article and to the 'Han Chinese' ethnic group. PK2 (talk; contributions) 06:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maury Island hoax → Maury Island Incident – "Maury Island Incident" was changed as the title of this article and it was redirected to "Maury Island Hoax". The accurate name, which was previously correct and is cited in the article and reflected in various pieces of art, websites, regional references, and Washington State Legislation, is the "Maury Island Incident". Whether or not it was a hoax is not in dispute, but the correct name should be given in the title and URL for accuracy. As you wouldn't title something "The Moon Landing Hoax", the same equally applies here where "hoax" (arguably subjective conjecture) does not belong in the title or URL of this series of events and local history collectively known today as the "Maury Island Incident". A new section would be a better place to make the argument for whether or not this was a hoax rather than in the article's title and sprinkled throughout the copy/other articles referring to this one. SSRTACOMM (talk) 01:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC) SSRTACOMM (talk) 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jim Rockford (Canadian football player) → Jim Rockford (gridiron football) – Since he played for the NFL's Chargers as well as the CFL the article should have the (gridiron football) disambiguator, player is only necessary if there was a coach with the same name. UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
July 16, 2024
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Love at First Sight (1977 Georgian film) → Love at First Sight (1977 film) – After years of this film having been disambiguated as year-and-country due to Love at First Sight (1977 Canadian film), in the process of trying to improve 1976 Toronto International Film Festival today I stumbled on proof that the Canadian film was screened at it, and is thus actually a 1976 film rather than a 1977 film. So it's been moved (and all inbound links to it have been updated) accordingly, and thus the Georgian film no longer needs the double-dab. We can simply use a hatnote of the "For the Canadian film commercially released in 1977, see Love at First Sight (1976 film)" variety if anybody feels strongly that there's still any potential for confusion. Bearcat (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Darren Jones → Darren Jones (disambiguation) – Per WP:PTOPIC. Darren Jones the politician is definitely the primary person with this name. As the other people with this name listed is a retired footballer and a non-existent page. This page also gets more than a hundred times more views than the footballer. Zinderboff(talk) 20:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – JVM (disambiguation) → JVM – WP:NOPT 2600:1006:B06C:CDD8:60DB:A17F:C226:A358 (talk) 17:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – JMV (disambiguation) → JMV – WP:NOPT 2600:1006:B06C:CDD8:60DB:A17F:C226:A358 (talk) 17:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nusantara → Nusantara (disambiguation) – When this move was nominated a year ago, the primary reason against such move was that it was too soon with the city then only in its planning stages along with doubts whether or not the city would even be completed. Now, in about a month the city would become the new capital of Indonesia, which I argue would make it the primary topic. The city also gets significantly more views than other topics with such name. Zinderboff(talk) 16:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fatal stabbing of Alexandra Mezher → Killing of Alexandra Mezher – As per, WP:CONSISTENT with other articles where stabbing resulted in a death. People are more likely to search the title as "Killing of Person X". — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 10:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 15:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Binghamton shooting → 2009 Binghamton shooting – Per the naming convention WP:NCE, the title should include the date in the majority of cases, as it's a useful indicator to the reader and it does not have enough "historical perspective" to remain without. This would also make the title WP:CONSISTENT with List of mass shootings in the United States, where most shootings include the date. Pilaz (talk) 14:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) Pilaz (talk) 14:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – KP Sharma Oli → K. P. Sharma Oli – per our house style WP:SPACEINITS. --woodensuperman 12:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Newton Dale Halt railway station → Newtondale Halt railway station – NYMR website and all writings describe the station as "Newtondale" instead of "Newton Dale" Danners430 (talk) 10:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Destruction of al-Jalaa Building → Destruction of the al-Jalaa Building – The usual grammatical convention would be to say "the al-Jalaa Building", and this can be seen in multiple sources. — The Anome (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — The Anome (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Libyan Crisis (2011–present) → Libyan crisis (2011–present) – Revert the undiscussed over-capitalization of 2014 (there have been lots of move discussions since, but nobody mentioned going back to the original before the undiscussed caps; see history). Sources mostly use lowercase. Dicklyon (talk) 03:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Davenport West High School → West High School (Davenport, Iowa) – = WP Naming Convention, alignment with the other high schools Davenport, official name per NCES RickH86 (talk) 01:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
July 15, 2024
- (Discuss) – Eights Week → Summer Eights – While referred to as Eights Week in the past, the event is far more commonly known as Summer Eights today. All University, College, and town publication, including all material from the actual organisers refers to the event as 'Summer Eights', not 'Eights Week'. Additionally, as referred to by the last move request back in 2016, there are far more common results for Summer Eights than Eights Week in search engines. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. OxfordRowing (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transgender hormone therapy → Hormone replacement therapy (transgender) – It has become clear that the current article at Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal application does not qualify as a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after reviewing of page navigation flows for Hormone replacement therapy, Hormone therapy and Transgender hormone therapy. An outsizedly large amount of traffic that currently navigates straight from Hormone replacement therapy to Transgender hormone therapy, since HRT is also referred to for it (as outlined in the lead of the article), or to the current disambiguating article Hormone therapy, which combined account for 30% of the navigation from the current HRT article. So I propose that Hormone replacement therapy doesn't have a clear primary topic and as such we should rename the two articles to both use "Hormone replacement therapy" (or HRT in short) as their WP:COMMONNAME with the specific application in parenthesis. And then turn the current "Hormone replacement therapy" into a simple disambiguation page, or redirect it to Hormone therapy (which kind of already acts as a disambiguation page, as also shown from the traffic of the hat note). Raladic (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rose Hanbury → Rose Cholmondeley, Marchioness of Cholmondeley – Per WP:NCBRITPEER. While tabloids call her by her maiden name, she is otherwise referred, both officially and in non-tabloid papers, as the Marchioness of Cholmondely or Lady Cholmondely and so on. For example, Diana is usually called Princess Di or Lady Di or Diana Spencer but her official title and the title of her article is Diana, Princess of Wales. The current Princess of Wales is commonly called Kate Middleton but her article is title in "Catherine, Princess of Wales". Same with Meghan Markle. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Jackson sexual abuse allegations → 1993 sexual abuse allegations against Michael Jackson – Per WP:TITLEDAB. There have been multiple major allegations of abuse against Michael Jackson. This article focuses on the first. (Note that the short description reads "First allegations against singer".) The other major allegations are covered in Trial of Michael Jackson and Leaving Neverland. We should retitle the article to make clear that this article is not about all the allegations in general. Popcornfud (talk) 17:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Reflist/Transwiki guide → Help:Importing Reflist – This isn't a template or even a documentation page explaining the usage of the template, but a help page explaining how to import it. This is better placed in the actual help namespace. Gonnym (talk) 07:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 12:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions → Finalissima – I do not understand how the December move request was opposed. Per Wikipedia:Article titles, the title should be recognizable, concise, natural, precise, and consistent. The majority of the sources in the article uses Finalissima or Artemio Franchi Cup (which I hope we can agree is an outdated name), and very little refer to it as the "CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions". In fact source 1 of the article states that the "Cup of Champions" refers to the trophy and "Finalissima" is the tournament. Even a Google search of "CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions" gives you results on the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and European Rugby Champions Cup with ESPN the only major site that (outside of Wikipedia) that returns this tournament. Google "Finalissima" on the otherhand and it returns results for this tournament from sites such as Sky Sports, BBC, The Guardian, and most importantly UEFA. The women's and fustal version of the tournament have been named "Finalissima". So why isn't the men's if article naming is supposed to be consistent? Mn1548 (talk) 08:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita → Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023 – As per the earlier request, now that the bill is passed and the Act is live. - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharatiya_Nyaya_Sanhita,_2023&oldid=1189635548 Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trump raised-fist photographs → Donald Trump fist pump photographs – While his fist is raised in the images, he was actually carrying out a fist pump while being escorted off stage. Also "Trump raised fist" doesn't include the first name of the main subject of the photograph, and just doesn't sound right. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 05:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Siew Pui Yi → Ms. Puiyi – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
July 14, 2024
- (Discuss) – International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova → International Criminal Court arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin – It made sense to include these two together when they were the only people in Russia wanted by ICC for their crimes in Ukraine. However later new warrants appeared for Sergey Kobylash and Viktor Sokolov, and then for Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov. This article does not cover all Russians wanted for war crimes anymore and I see no more reason to group Putin and Lvova-Belova together. It is clear Putin's warrant is the primary topic. For a reason is "Putin" mentioned 73 times in the article while "Lvova-Belova" is mentioned 10. Super Ψ Dro 13:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 16:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kiritsubo Consort → Consort Kiritsubo – I think if we are to go with the Anglicized form of the name, then "Consort Kiritsubo" would be the more naturally sound option. There is also precedent per WP:CONSISTENT: Lady Fujitsubo (instead of Fujitsubo Lady), Consort Kang (instead of Kang Consort), etc. Keivan.fTalk 20:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thomas Crooks → Thomas Crooks (disambiguation) – Thomas Matthew Crooks is clearly the primary topic for Thomas Crooks. See: [1][2][3], etc. Thomas Crooks should redirect to Thomas Matthew Crooks and a hatnote should be added to Thomas Matthew Crooks pointing to the disambiguation page. C F A 💬 22:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Keir Starmer's tenure as Leader of the Opposition → Opposition leadership of Keir Starmer – Sounds more formal and in line with the title of "Premiership of Keir Starmer". This title formatting can then be used as a basis for any future article like this as well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dominion War → Dominion (Star Trek) – This is the real name of the content at the start of this article, with the Dominion war being the second part. 2605:8D80:1395:6A74:64E2:7196:A7F6:BBBA (talk) 18:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SWIFT → Swift (bank) – SWIFT uses "Swift" name commonly. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – European University of Madrid → European University – The European University of Madrid has expanded with campuses in other parts of Spain and now uses the branding "Universidad Europea" or "European University". Folkezoft (talk) 17:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Galaxy 2 (disambiguation) → Galaxy 2 – Page views are roughly evenly divided between Samsung Galaxy S II and Super Mario Galaxy 2, with the former receiving slightly more views over 9 years. I am not convinced that Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Galaxy 2." Mia Mahey (talk) 16:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Francis, Duke of Guise → François, Duke of Guise – This is my second attempt at this move request. The first was closed to no-consensus with a 3 support 2 oppose back in March. I am going to attempt to address some of the criticisms of the move raised in that move request and just more fully flesh out the reason this article should be moved. As before the grounds for the move are WP:COMMONNAME. In this ngram you will see a comparison of the relative popularities of Henri de Guise, Henry de Guise, François de Lorraine and Francis de Lorraine [4] Ngrams are not my favourite method of determining popularity as they tend to be crowded by noise, therefore I will primarily be using google scholar results, restricted to results in English publications since 2000 for a better understanding of the modern usage. Francis of Guise = 53 results Francis of Lorraine = 199 results Francis de Guise = 7 results Francis de Lorraine = 6 results Francis, Duke of Guise = 98 results Francis, Duke de Guise = 1 result Francis, duc of Guise = 0 results Francis, duc de Guise = 4 results Francis of Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 9 results Francis of Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results Francis of Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Francis of Lorraine, duc de Guise = 0 results Francis de Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 1 result Francis de Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 1 result Francis de Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Francis de Lorraine, duc de Guise = 0 results Total for Francis = 379 (give or take, there will be some noise in Francis of Lorraine/Henry of Lorraine and François de Lorraine/Henri de Lorraine due to other people of the same name) François of Guise = 11 results François of Lorraine = 20 results François de Guise = 230 results François de Lorraine = 210 results François, Duke of Guise = 76 results François, Duke de Guise = 5 results François, duc of Guise = 0 results François, duc de Guise = 83 results François of Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 1 results François of Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results François of Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results François of Lorraine, duc de Guise = 3 results François de Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 18 results François de Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results François de Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results François de Lorraine, duc de Guise = 59 results Total for François = 716 (same disclaimed as above for Francis). 716 vs 379: a decisive majority of scholarly usage for the name François. Henry of Guise = 105 results Henry of Lorraine = 52 results Henry de Guise = 31 results Henry de Lorraine = 24 results Henry, Duke of Guise = 115 results Henry, Duke de Guise = 6 results Henry, duc of Guise = 0 results Henry, duc de Guise = 13 results Henry of Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 11 results Henry of Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 1 result Henry of Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Henry of Lorraine, duc de Guise = 0 results Henry de Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 2 results Henry de Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results Henry de Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Henry de Lorraine, duc de Guise = 3 results Total for Henry = 363. Henri of Guise = 23 results Henri of Lorraine = 21 results Henri de Guise = 225 results Henri de Lorraine = 129 results Henri, Duke of Guise = 64 results Henri, Duke de Guise = 2 results Henri, duc of Guise = 0 results Henri, duc de Guise = 87 results Henri of Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 2 results Henri of Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results Henri of Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Henri of Lorraine, duc de Guise = 1 result Henri de Lorraine, Duke of Guise = 7 results Henri de Lorraine, Duke de Guise = 0 results Henri de Lorraine, duc of Guise = 0 results Henri de Lorraine, duc de Guise = 27 results Total for Henri = 588. 588 vs 363 another decisive margin. The google scholar searches for Henri function as evidence for both Henry/Henri I, and Henry/Henri II, as using the numerals would massively depreciate the numbers returned. In addressing the point raised by Srnec in the prior move, we have a majority in English scholarship for the names François and Henri, we do not have a majority for duc de Guise over duke of Guise for the article title (131 duc vs 209 duke for Henri and 149 duc vs 205 duke for François). Beyond the statistical evidence in support of its common usage, I would like to also draw on particular scholarship as I did for my first move request. This will be based on English language scholarship covering the periods of the Italian Wars and the French Wars of Religion covering the life span of François and Henri I, I have less specific scholarship examples for Henri II, however he is covered in a couple of these and the statistical evidence. The first and most important work is the recent (2011) biography of the Guise family 'Martyrs and Murderers: the Guise family and the making of Europe' written by the historian Stuart Carroll. This biography refers to the dukes as follows: François, Henri, Henri. There is also the recent work by the historian Mark Konnert in which they are a title feature (Local Politics in the French Wars of Religion: The Towns of Champagne, the duc de Guise and the Catholic League (1560-1595)) which likewise uses François and Henri. I will include the survey of academic English literature I included in my first move request, with slight additions for academics I have since become aware of. Gould [history of the French Wars of Religion in the south of the kingdom] (2006) = François; Roelker [biography of Jeanne d'Albret] (1968) = François, Henri; Knecht [biography of Catherine de' Medici] (2014) = François, Henri; Diefendorf [history of Paris in the prelude to the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre] (1991) = François, Henri; Roberts [history of the peace making efforts during the wars] (2013) = François, Henri; Sutherland [history of the secretaries of state in the era of Catherine] (1962) = François, Henri; Tullchin (2012) = François, Henri;; Baumgartner (1986) = Henri; Harding (1978) = François, Henri; Heller (2003) = Henri; Potter (1997) = François, Henri; Carroll (2005) = François, Henri; Bernstein (2004) = Henri; Konnert (1997) = François, Henri; Benedict (2003) = François, Henri; Salmon [introduction to French sixteenth century history] (1979) = François, Henri; Shaw (2019) [only English language survey of the Italian Wars] = François; Pitts [biography of Henri IV of France] (2012) = François, Henri; Neuschel (1989) = François; Kingdon (1967) = François, Henri; Greengrass (1988) = François; Conner (2000) = François; Spangler [chief historian of the Guise family in the 17th century, i.e. Henri II] (2016) = Henri, Heap (2019) = François, Henri. Tingle [history of Nantes during the French Wars of Religion] (2006) is a little unusual, refers to François, and Henry; likewise Shimizu [dissertation on Gaspard de Coligny] (1970) refers to Francis, and Henri Holt [biography of the duc d'Anjou] (2002) = Francis, Henry, he is the only French Wars of Religion era academic I am aware of who throughout all his works consistently calls them this way. Wood [military history of the early French Wars of Religion] (2002) never refers to either duke by their first name In some of the above I have detailed the nature of the book in square brackets to indicate the mixture of popular biographies, introductory surveys and more focused studies of various institutions and regions that build this picture. In addition to my common move argument, it is also of note that the article for the seventh duke of Guise is at François Joseph, Duke of Guise so the present state of affairs in addition to violating common usage, also creates a weird discordance in the line of dukes. sovietblobfish (talk) 15:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ismail Kemal → Ismail Qemali – Ismail Qemali is the native name how it is spelled into the native language, the conspiracies as per why the name was changed falls into Original Research. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robbie Moore (MP) → Robbie Moore (politician) – This seems to be the standard disambiguator. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 14:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pan-Illyrian theories → Pan-Illyrian hypotheses – Misnomer. "Theory" and "hypothesis" are not synonyms in fields like this, and none of these hypotheses rose to the level of theories before being discarded. Also, to be WP:CONSISTENT with other articles of this sort, e.g. Vasconic substrate hypothesis, Germanic substrate hypothesis, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 12:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rafiullah (cricketer) → Rafiullah – unnecessary disambiguation as this is the only Wikipedia page titled "Rafiullah" Joeykai (talk) 22:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Rafiullah → Rafiullah (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (Unicode block) → Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics – To the best of my knowledge, there is no indication that this term is ever used to refer to the Canadian Aboriginal syllabics, especially in title case. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ideographic Description Characters (Unicode block) → Ideographic Description Character – The current base title redirects to content related to this code block, so it is unnecessary disambiguation. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mr. Stain → Mr. Stain on Junk Alley – Proper title of the show. 176.249.151.251 (talk) 05:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Army Radio → Israeli Army Radio – to be more descriptive. Israeli Army Radio already redirect to Army Radio Astropulse (talk) 04:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Free Press (organization) → ? – All of these titles are too ambiguous to form good disambiguators - the first and third cases are ambiguous with each other (the article company describes nonprofits as a type of company and "media" is sufficiently vague that this article could be described as media-related). Unfortunately both are American so that doesn't work, and both are still active so the next attempt of disambiguating by year would be odd. Any better suggestions? Meanwhile Free Press (magazine) can be moved to be much clearer about the subject without any conflicts given that the dab page describes The Free Press (media company) as a magazine. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – University of Texas at Austin stabbing → 2024 University of Texas at Austin stabbing – Add year to title, there was another stabbing at UT Austin in 2017 that also had significant media attention. [Texas Tribune] [USA Today] [CBS News] TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 00:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
July 13, 2024
- (Discuss) – Magic (company) → Magic, Inc. (magic goods company) – WP:AT ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea. The organization described at Magic, Inc. (organization) appears to be a non-profit corporation that calls itself "Magic". The full name of this magic store is "Magic, Inc." ... so both short and long form names are ambiguous. The various professional sports teams named "Magic" are for-profit companies. The various radio stations are also companies. WP:PRECISE better disambiguation is needed to identify the topic. -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 23:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magic, Inc. (organization) → Magic, Inc. (think tank) – WP:AT ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea. WP:PRECISE a better disambiguation is needed to identify the topic. Magic, Inc. (company) is an organization, as are all companies are also organizations. This article is about a think tank. -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 23:07, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran → Reza Pahlavi – Per WP:NPOV and WP:NCROY JasonMacker (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Reza Pahlavi → Reza Pahlavi (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Zuberbühler → Zuberbühler, Chaco – This title should probably better host a surname list (see also de:Zuberbühler). 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cell → Cell (disambiguation) – This is the clear primary topic since the dab page says that is the most common term for the page. Interstellarity (talk) 20:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Scott Morrow → Scott Morrow (ice hockey, born 1969) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voluntary assisted dying in Western Australia → ? – This page is functionally a page about the specific law: Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019. The other pages in this area which are about specific laws, they are named after the specific law: *Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in the Northern Territory *Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2017 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in Victoria For the purposes of uniformity, this page should be renamed Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019 A history/background section is perfectly reasonable to have in a page about a specific law - that is the case for Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006, Aliens Deportation Act 1948, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021. DotCoder (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 13 July 2024 Al-Mawasi airstrikes → 13 July 2024 al-Mawasi attack – For some reason this article was opened separately from this article: 2024 targeted assassination of Muhammad Deif. But since it has already been written, I recommend specifying the date of the attack to a specific day. Galamore (talk) 19:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rhodine Sikumba → Rodney Sikumba – Rodney Sikumba is the WP:COMMONNAME for this person and he is normally referred to by that name by Zambians, as seen at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and more (I primarily used Google Search News to find these). It seems like only governmental websites like parliament.org.zm are the ones that refer to him as Rhodine Sikumba and as such, it is not his "Common Name" (I suppose it is his "Official Name"). As an add (although irrelevant), he has named all his official social media pages with the name Rodney Malindi Sikumba, as can be seen by typing his name on Google Search. GeographicAccountant (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ermou Street (Athens) → Ermou Street – Unnecessary disambiguation. Killuminator (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ober's test → Ober test – 20 results for Ober's test on Pubmed and 23 for Ober test. This combined with the trend towards removing "
's
" in medicine and the calls for standardization of the removal of apostrophe s by the WHO, AMA, and NIH, among others, points me towards the validity of this RM. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 15:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of tornadoes spawned by tropical cyclones → List of tropical cyclones spawning tornadoes – this is a list of tropical cyclones more than it is a list of tornadoes, and in that setting it works, but across the entire page there are only 5 notes for individual tornadoes, hardly quality enough to be a tornado list - there just aren't enough notable tornadoes spawned by cyclones to warrant their own list, but a list of cyclones spawning tornadoes is what's here and the article should be renamed as such GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 targeted assassination of Muhammad Deif → 13 July 2024 al-Mawasi attack – There are two distinct POVs here. Israel's POV is that they killed a mastermind of the October 7 attacks. Palestinian POV is that Israel massacred innocent civilians, including women and children. Wikipedia should not take sides. The title should be neutral, and all POVs should be discussed in the article.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Old Capitol Building → ? – Insufficiently disambiguated and it's unclear whether there's a primary topic. Killuminator (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Disagreement (disambiguation) → Disagreement – No other page entitled "Disagreement" (with only one "S") exists. Jax 0677 (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Le magique → The Magic (film) – The concurrent nomination at Talk:Magique (disambiguation)#Requested move 13 July 2024 brought attention to this entry which is listed under its English-language title at Letterboxd. It may be also noted that all the other titles under List of Tunisian submissions for the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film have English-language titles. If there is no consensus for this move, it may be further noted that most sources, including IMDb, AllMovie, Rotten Tomatoes and even French Wikipedia as well as Arabic Wikipedia list this title as "Le Magique", not as "Le magique". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Annexation of Santo Domingo → Treaty of annexation of Santo Domingo – The Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo was an actual annexation of Santo Domingo, so the current title of this article more properly refers to the other. This article is about an attempted annexation that did not take place. Srnec (talk) 14:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anglo-Turkish War (1918–1923) → Anglo-Turkish war of 1918–1923 – There has been some move warring. At the very least, this article needs a descriptive title, as it does not have a proper name. It was briefly at the title "United Kingdom during the Turkish War of Independence". Srnec (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:GPL-3 → Template:GPL-3+ – This is due to a merger on Commons. c:Template:GPLv3 is getting deprecated and redirected to c:Template:GPLv3 only in due course, while c:Template:GPLv3+ will take on the role of GPLv3. You can read about this merger at c:Template talk:GPLv3. Naturally, c:Template:GPL-3 will also be re-redirected to GPLv3 only soon, which creates a problem. If a file with this template is moved with a tool like mtc-cli after GPL-3 is redirected to GPLv3 only, then we have effectively got a licensing change (GPLv3 or later -> GPLv3 only). Therefore, it is structurally necessary to move this template to GPL-3+. Furthermore, the SPDX (which is like a database of licenses) to identify GPLv3 only is actually GPL-3.0, so it makes little sense to keep this template here. IMPORTANT NOTE TO CLOSERS if this discussion is closed as move, it needs to occur without redirect and all transclusions and links to this template need to be replaced. This is due to the above problems. I can do this if you want. Pinging members of Commons discussion: @Liuxinyu970226, Gabldotink, and 0x0a —Matrix(!) {user - talk? -
uselesscontributions} 14:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jamsetji Tata → Jamshedji Tata – "Jamsetji Tata" is the wrong name, and we should revert to The actual name:-"Jamshedji Tata".Maheep Singh24 (talk) 11:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Albtelecom → ALBtelecom – correct name. InterComMan (talk) 10:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antihaitianismo → anti-Haitian sentiment – This is one of the very few (literally I count two, the other being Hispanophobia) exceptions in the Category:Anti-national sentiment using the a name variant other than Anti-Foo sentiment. Let's standardize this to be similar to others (Anti-Catalan sentiment, Anti-German sentiment, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hispanophobia → anti-Spanish sentiment – This is one of the very few (literally I count two, the other being Antihaitianismo) exceptions in the Category:Anti-national sentiment using the Foophobia name variant rather than Anti-Foo sentiment. Let's standardize this to be similar to others (Anti-Catalan sentiment, Anti-German sentiment, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – New World Order (conspiracy theory) → New World Order conspiracy theory – The practice of placing the phrase "conspiracy theory" directly after the name of said conspiracy theory is common in other Wikipedia articles such as Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, white genocide conspiracy theory, and Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory. And WP:NCDAB recommends using natural disambiguation over parenthetical disambiguation when possible. PBZE (talk) 05:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Café Filho → João Café Filho – "Filho" is a Portuguese suffix, so the current title is basically just "Café Jr" without any first name. The page title should be renamed so that the first name is included, additionally bringing it in line with other languages (e.g. Italian, Spanish, German) Maluwag54321 (talk) 04:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vasai Virar Municipal Corporation Marathon → Vasai-Virar Municipal Corporation Marathon – Here are some news references 1, 2 and also here clearly mentioned in the logo on this website where Hyphen is used 3. 49.32.131.31 (talk) 03:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Thopia → Gjergj Thopia – Switch title to the native name Gjergj. Arberian2444 (talk) 03:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultime grida dalla savana → Savage Man Savage Beast – Per WP:USEENGLISH in most foreign language film titles, with the exception of La dolce vita. 49.150.14.10 (talk) 00:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GwangjuSongjeong station → Gwangju Songjeong station – The CamelCase version does not appear in English-language sources, while the space-separated and hyphen-separated versions do; or perhaps the hyphen should be a dash since Gwangju and Songjeong-dong are the names of the places served. Dicklyon (talk) 16:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magique (disambiguation) → Magique – The current redirect at Magique is a topic that could not support an article and was merged into a character list. Thus it should not be the primary topic. Thus the edit history a the base name needs to be displaced to Magique (Marvel Comics) per WP:MAD, to make way for moving the disambiguation page to the base name. -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 00:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
July 12, 2024
- (Discuss) – Ashanti Empire → Asante Empire – Ngrams shows Asante Empire is used more than Ashanti Empire ([5]) and it should be changed per WP:Common name. Asante is also the native name, but that is nothing to do with WP policy Kowal2701 (talk) 21:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – María José Rienda Contreras → María José Rienda – WP:COMMONNAME is always "María José Rienda", omitting maternal surname. See all references on this page, and her FIS-Ski profile, Olympics profile, Olympedia profile, Instagram, Twitter, and Spanish Wiki page. Ortizesp (talk) 12:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shahrukh Bek → Shahrukh of Kokand – Bek is a non-defining title commonly used for men in general. "Shahruh Beg" refers to at least one additional ruler. In this case, the addition of some sort of disambiguation is necessary. Aintabli (talk) 19:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shakti pitha → Shakta pithas – Not really a very strong support from my end, but regardless, I thought this might merit a discussion among the WP community for the record. While contemporary usage among the vast Hindi-speaking population in India seems to prefer "Shakti pithas", references to the subject in traditional Hindu religious literature is unanimously as "Shakta pithas", so no wonder that every major scholar on Shaktism or Tantra has used that term. The only book on this topic even to this day is by the noted historian Dineshchandra Sircar. Other academic sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Also important to note here that the present scholarly consensus is that this very concept took shape in Bengal, so the fact that even historian Sachidananda Sarkar refers to the topic as "Shakta pithas" in his Bengali book মহাতীর্থ একান্নপীঠের সন্ধানে might be relevant to consider. Thanks. Jovian Eclipse 13:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Seung-min → Seungmin – Requesting to move from "Kim Seung-min" to "Seungmin" (currently a redirect) as per WP:COMMONNAME. The article itself states that the subject of this article is "commonly known as Seungmin" and not as his full name. The subject of this article is not nor has he ever been commonly known by the general public as "Kim Seung-min" 142.163.137.123 (talk) 19:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gender variance → Gender nonconformity – According to Google Ngrams, gender nonconformity is the more commonly used term. The article should be named with its common name. Urchincrawler (talk) 16:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Id Tech 2 (disambiguation) → id Tech 2 – "(disambiguation)" is not needed since there is no primary topic per WP:DABNAME. The articles that claim this term as alternative title (Quake Engine, Quake II engine) are not commonly known as "Id Tech 2". I recently redirected Id Tech 2 to this page to address an inconsistency, as Id tech 2 was also redirected here. Mika1h (talk) 16:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine → United States support for Ukraine in the Russian invasion of Ukraine – The US has unequivocally supported Ukraine against Russia. There is no doubt about this. We should be WP:CONSISTENT with other article titles like United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war, Qatari support for Hamas, British support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, Israeli support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war, French support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, North Korean support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq War, Alleged Pakistani support for Osama bin Laden etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 15:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Constitution of the People's Republic of China → Constitution of China – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "Taiwan" and "China" is the short form name of ROC and PRC respectively. Barring concerns that many contents of constitution consisted of either claim of "China" and "Taiwan", the name "Constitution of Taiwan" and "Constitution of China" already redirected to these two articles. So, it may be necessary to move those articles according to common name guidelines. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 13:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ben Aldridge (actor) → Ben Aldridge – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, displayed by page views and search engine results. The actor is way more notable. FishLoveHam (talk) 14:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ben Aldridge → Ben Aldridge (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – List of presidents of the Judicial Yuan → Chief Justice of Taiwan – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC/WP:COMMONNAME; in line with several countries articles. For User:Butterdiplomat, the name is chosen as seen in articles from BBC and South China Morning Post. Do you oppose or support? Silence of Lambs (talk) 13:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shamoji → Rice paddle – The current page and title are too Japan-focused. The title is also not the WP:COMMONNAME, nor does it abide by WP:USEENGLISH. See this crude ngram. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 12:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sepsi OSK Sfântu Gheorghe → Sepsi OSK – It is way more common than the current title. EpicAdventurer (talk) 22:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Morbius, the Living Vampire → Morbius (character) – Per WP:CONCISE, and potentially also WP:SUBTITLES. Currently, the title "Morbius (character)" redirects to a disambiguation page, which doesn't make much sense considering that there is only one character named Morbius that has a Wikipedia page. Di (they-them) (talk) 05:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Russian sentiment → Russophobia – This is the more common and natural name, and also the word used more frequently in the article. It also naturally mirrors the Russophilia article. JDiala (talk) 05:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – UAAP Final Four → UAAP final four – As far as I can tell, final four is a generic term, except in the context of the (American) NCAA Final Four, in which case it is their trademark. Dicklyon (talk) 05:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
July 11, 2024
- (Discuss) – Blair Park → Blair Park (Piedmont) – There are other Blair Parks in the state, in larger cities (San Bernardino). This would create less confusion, in my opinion but am open to thoughts. House1090 (talk) 21:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rakia → Raki (drink) – According to google ngrams [[6]] Raki is way more used than both Rakia and Rakija. I propose the name to be changed to Raki (drink) as per naming rules of Wikipedia. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 19:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Da Un Jung → Da Woon Jung – It is time to revisit this name change request after a year. Sources that show his real name Da Woon Jung:
ESPN - https://www.espn.com/mma/fighter/_/id/4389252/da-woon-jung
UFC Stats (Official) - http://ufcstats.com/fighter-details/74f9448b97bf8bec
His official Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/fighter_jeong/?hl=en
His official X - https://x.com/fighter__jeong
His UFC.com profile page - https://www.ufc.com/athlete/da-woon-jung?language_content_entity=en
Sherdog: https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Da-Woon-Jung-202241
MMAJunkie profile page - https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/fighters/da-un-jung
Currently, only Tapology has him listed incorrectly as "Da Un Jung". I think this page should be renamed to reflect the actual spelling of his name and as per all sources and references referring to him as Da Woon Jung. Marty2Hotty (talk) 17:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Taiwan under Japanese rule → History of Taiwan (1895–1945) – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. To be consistent like History of Taiwan (1945–present) and other periods of other countries, do you support or oppose the change? Silence of Lambs (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fimbulvetr → Fimbulwinter – More common name in English, i get 73% more results in Google than the Old Norse name (142k vs 246k), also in line with other Wikipedia languages whom have the name translated to the indigenous language. Blockhaj (talk) 14:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bombing of Nagoya in World War II → Bombing of Nagoya – There was only one, see articles "Bombing of Osaka" and "Bombing of Tokyo" for consistency in format. Gryffindor (talk) 14:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gotjawal Forest → Gotjawal – See above talk post. "Gotjawal Forest" suggests that there's a single forest with this title on the island. This is not true; there are a number of gotjawal forests that each have their own names. I just rewrote the entire article to make clear that this is a generic term encompassing multiple forests, and not a title for a single forest. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Uttar Pradesh crowd crush → 2024 Hathras crowd crush – The title should be precise about the location. The article was moved from Hathras to Uttar Pradesh without discussion. Most commenters in the subsequent RM ignored the location aspect of the title. 2A00:23CC:B4AA:2F01:8CCD:1CFF:FEBB:539F (talk) 10:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ho Mobile → ho. Mobile – Real name of the sub-brand operated by Vodafone (which also fits perfectly into the criteria of WP:AT).[1][2][3][4]
References
- ^ https://www.hdblog.it/smartphone/articoli/n587006/ho-mobile-offerta-nuovi-clienti/
- ^ https://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/2024/07/08/ho-mobile-100-giga-5-99-attivazione-1049663/
- ^ https://www.tomshw.it/smartphone/con-ho-mobile-hai-200gb-in-5g-a-meno-di-10eur-al-mese-per-navigare-al-massimo-della-velocita
- ^ https://www.linkedin.com/company/ho-mobile
- (Discuss) – Foundation series → Foundation (book series) – Foundation (TV series) is also a "series" so this title is an incomplete disambiguation state. And while not a primary topic so page views aren't really needed, per Pageviews it hasn't received more views than the series over the last year Gonnym (talk) 08:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Moon Ga-young → Mun Ka-young – List of reliable sources (per WP:RSPSOURCES and WP:KO/RS#R) using the name "Mun Ka-young": 1.(www.chosun.com) 2.(www.koreatimes.co.kr) 3.(www.voguehk.com) 4.(www.koreaherald.com) 5.(en.yna.co.kr) 27.125.245.54 (talk) 09:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 27.125.249.251 (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nushki District → Noshki District – There seem to be conflicting sources on the name of the district; some sources will use Noshki, renamed from Noshkay, while others will use Nushki. Noshki, from what I can find, seems to be both the more common among reliable sources, and also the correct name. If consensus can be found to move this page, I'll also be renaming related pages Nushki and Nushki shooting, as they'd be renamed for the same reason. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 06:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kanjurmarg → Kanjur Marg – 'Kanjur' is the Suburb and 'Marg' means Road in local language. These are two different words. Some news references 1, 2, 3 49.32.227.177 (talk) 05:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – Battle of Geneina → Geneina massacre – Referring to the page as the Battle of Geneina made sense when it was first created, but the June massacres and new details and reports revealing the amount of the destruction and killings shows that this was moreso a coordinated campaign of massacres and attacks by the RSF and allied militias against the Masalit people in Geneina, with just about every source highlighting the genocidal massacres and atrocities over the clashes. Jebiguess (talk) 03:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Very Nice → Very Nice (disambiguation) – Maybe an eager move, but there is only one article within the current mainspace. There are no mentions to "Very Nice" in Borat's article, the only Dermansky novel with an article is a stub, and only one album under the record label has an article, plus the label would likely be "Very Nice Records" if it had an article. Not to say these other things wont eventually be notable, but in the meantime I would say the song is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Orangesclub (talk) 06:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – In These Times → In These Times (disambiguation) – The article about the nearly 50-year-old magazine was unilaterally moved without discussion in June, 2023, with no apparent consideration of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: I argue the magazine still is the primary topic. The only other 2 articles called "In These Times" are a recent, humdrum album by Peter, Paul, and Mary, and a recent, even more obscure album by lesser known artist Makaya McCraven. Over 250 Wikipedia articles currently link to the magazine (now given the unconventional disambiguator "publication" rather than "magazine"), while roughly 50 link to the PP&M album and only 4 non-disambugiation pages link to the McCraven album. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Alley → Main Development Region – Per WP:COMMONNAME. On Google Scholar, "Main Development Region" yields over 1,600 results[7] and "MDR hurricane" yields over 4,500 reults;[8] "Hurricane Alley" yields over 500 results,[9], with many not even pertaining to Atlantic hurricanes. Google trends is less clear, "Hurricane Alley" wins over "Main Development Region", but "MDR" bests both by far; "MDR" however can refer to many things. Nevertheless, that "MDR" or "Main Development Region" is overwhelmingly preferred in literature, NHC products, and our own articles—35 items link to Main Development Region, whilst only 5 link to Hurricane Alley excluding redirects and non-mainspace pages—leads me to believe this article should be moved accordingly. ArkHyena (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Roman Palestine (period) → Roman Palestine – This page was originally created over the redirect that currently sits at the base name, but this move was contested, so I have recreated the page with a disambiguated title. Roman Palestine is a period term for the portion of the history of Palestine characterized by Roman rule, from the time of the vassalage of the region after the Romans intervened in local politics until the Arab conquest. There are some slight variations to this, with the Britannica entry setting the start date as the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but as other sources show [10][11], 63 BC to 70 AD can also be characterized as "Early Roman Palestine". From the literature both on page and out there and discoverable, and not least the Britannica entry, it seems pretty clear that the period is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term. While the current redirect to Syria Palaestina strikes upon perhaps the most obvious constituent subdivision of the Roman period, there was nothing less Roman about the earlier Roman Judaea or the period of local dynastic vassalage still prior to this, or the Byzantine-era Diocese of the East period afterwards. On the contrary, it would be highly unusual not to consider the earlier periods also part of the Roman Palestine period (and to laser focus in on Syria Palaestina). Works such as Jesus and the Politics of Roman Palestine simply make no sense if you exclude Roman Judaea from the equation. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Killings of Carol, Hannah and Louise Hunt → 2024 Bushey killings – Requesting move per WP:NCWWW and per naming convention of similar articles where multiple victims are involved. This is Paul (talk) 17:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- (Discuss) – National Rally–The Republicans alliance crisis → 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis – The crisis mostly concerns The Republicans, and has little to do with the National Rally party. They were just there and said "OK" to Ciotti's faction joining their movement. I understand the current name but it's both too long and gives too much spotlight to the RN. The French article is called "2024 crisis in The Republicans party", which is a more accurate description of the situation. I suggest 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis, in line with the name of the article The Republicans (France). Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black Widow (Yelena Belova) → Yelena Belova – While this character has predominantly used the alias "Black Widow" since her introduction in the late 1990s, she has used other aliases beyond that. Namely, these are "Super-Adaptoid starting in 2006 and most recently "White Widow" starting in 2021. While WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By codename was sufficient for the decades this character only used "Black Widow", WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By character name seems more applicable nowadays as this character has donned other names and, while Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) is largely deemed the more common/notable Black Widow, the set index Black Widow (Marvel Comics) covers other characters with this name. The character has also been more frequently referred to by her "real" WP:COMMONNAME Yelena Belova in comics and other media, and Yelena Belova (a redirect to this article), provides a WP:NATURAL disambiguation for this subject. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 19:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Democratic Party of Germany → Die Heimat (political party) – When a party changes its name, it seems more than natural to rename the page too. Current English-language sources on the party refer to it by its new original name, Die Heimat, which should therefore be the title of the page. It doesn't seem sensible to me to keep a name that has been abandoned for a year now. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alcaeus → Alcaeus (disambiguation) – The Greek lyric poet Alcaeus is the clear primary topic in both likely usage (WP:PT1) and longterm significance (WP:PT2). Likely Usage: There is really no debate that the lyric poet considerably dwarfs the others in page views. He is competing with comparatively niche cultural and mythological personalities; it is telling that all of the other Nine Lyric Poets are named monogamously on Wikipedia (although Simonides of Ceos is not, the name Simonides redirects there regardless). “Alcaeus of Mytilene” is simply not the common name for the lyric poet. Longterm significance: Alcaeus the lyric poet has been canonized in ancient literature, with an oeuvre described as “highly esteemed in the ancient world” ([12]), and an entire lyrical meter named after him (the Alcaic stanza). He is the subject of repeated monographs and studies; the other Alcaeus personages receive no where near this much attention. The previous move request spurred into a tangential analysis of how Alcaeus is presented in classical scholarship. The sources consulted were Brill's New Pauly and the 200 year-old Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology; both do not list the the lyric poet first. Since this is blatant cherrypicking, I’ll have a go myself: the 2014 Oxford Classical Dictionary, more comprehensive and up-to-date than both, lists the lyric poet first. In any case, Wikipedia is not a classical encyclopedia, it is a general encyclopedia. Other general encyclopedias simply call him "Alcaeus" (see Britannica and Oxford Reference) – Aza24 (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rallying → Rally (motorsport) – "Rallying" remains vague, as it can apply in literally every other type of sport "rally" is a term as well as the stock market. It is not an adequate disambiguation. Britannica calls it "rally" [13] so that's what I went with here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jutish → Jutlandic – I'm requesting a move to the new article, along with its associated talk page, because while the terms "Jutish" and "Jutlandic" can be synonyms and refer to either anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes', anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark, the terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jute, Jutish and Jutic), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jutlandic and Jutlandish), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (according to the entry on Wiktionary). But this definitely warrants further discussion. It seems we have five options here: # Retain the status quo, with the disambiguation page as the primary topic, # Move Jutlandic dialect to Jutlandic and retarget Jutish to Jutes, # Retarget Jutlandic to Jutish, # Move Jutish to Jutlandic and then do either of the following: :: a. retarget Jutish to Jutlandic, :: b. retarget Jutish to Jutes My personal preference is (4b), to move Jutish to Jutlandic and then retarget Jutish to Jutes, so I've styled the RM that way. But editors are also free to suggest whichever option they want in this RM. PK2 (talk) 03:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United Front (India) → United Front (India, 1996) – Dab from others at United Front (disambiguation)#India. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Modern era → Modern period – Although both the modern era and modern period are both common to describe this period. I feel that to be consistent with the Early modern period that this title would be reasonable. Interstellarity (talk) 20:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hazara, Pakistan → Hazara region – Article is about region and WP:COMMONNAME per: Google Ngrams, Google search result and media coverage.[14],[15],[16],[17],[18],[19] Furthermore, "Hazara, Pakistan" servers as a (disambiguation) link to "Hazara region, Hazara Division, Hazara District, Hazara University". Ainty Painty (talk) 05:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 08:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sthanakvasi → Sthānakavāsī – This article was living over 10 years under this proposed more appropriate and consistent name, per this change. However, earlier this year this change was reverted in this change. The rationale is unclear, as I was unable to find any documentation on this change. Requesting a discussion and a potential renaming per International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration used in other articles on Jainism. I have changed the label of the Wikidata item accordingly. Solarius (talk) 18:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 00:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Water Under the Bridge → Water Under the Bridge (song) – The Adele gets the most page views, but by long-term significance not sure there's a PRIMARYTOPIC, especially since there's a fairly common expression listed on WikiLinks that is more significant IMO. Ortizesp (talk) 19:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of target seats in the 2024 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2024 United Kingdom general election – These are lists of seats with small majorities, calculated from previous results. They are not lists of any party's target seats, which are the seats a party chooses to focus its funds and energies into contesting, as shown by headlines such as "Labour increases Scottish target seats to 36", and by the lead of the 2024 list. Simply changing "target seats in the nnnn ... election" to "marginal seats in the nnnn ... election" would result in ambiguity as it would not be clear whether these were marginal seats before or after the said election, hency my suggested new title of "marginal seats before the nnnn .... election". There may be better alternatives. PamD 22:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- List of target seats in the 2019 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2019 United Kingdom general election
- List of target seats in the 2017 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2017 United Kingdom general election
- List of target seats in the 2015 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2015 United Kingdom general election
- (Discuss) – Samsung Galaxy S (2010 smartphone) → Samsung Galaxy S (original) – Whether it was made in 2010 or 2015, it IS the original. Just as we have the Xbox (console) and PlayStation (console) articles on the original or first versions and yet there are articles on their later/latest versions. Intrisit (talk) 05:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – PBA Best Player of the Conference Award → PBA Best Player of the Conference award – The proper names of these awards do not include the word award, as checking news sources verifies. About half of these were originally correct and were capped in 2021 without discussion, for consistency with nba. Consistency with our own MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS is a better way to go. Alternatively, we could just drop the word award from the titles. Dicklyon (talk) 01:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Bobby Parks PBA Best Import of the Conference Award → Bobby Parks PBA Best Import of the Conference award
- PBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player Award → PBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player Award
- Bogs Adornado PBA Comeback Player of the Year Award → Bogs Adornado PBA Comeback Player of the Year award
- Danny Floro PBA Executive of the Year Award → Danny Floro PBA Executive of the Year award
- PBA Rookie of the Year Award → PBA Rookie of the Year award
- PBA Most Valuable Player Award → PBA Most Valuable Player award
- PBA Most Improved Player Award → PBA Most Improved Player award
- PBA Mr. Quality Minutes Award → PBA Mr. Quality Minutes award
- Baby Dalupan PBA Coach of the Year Award → Baby Dalupan PBA Coach of the Year award
- PBA Defensive Player of the Year Award → PBA Defensive Player of the Year award
- Samboy Lim PBA Sportsmanship Award → Samboy Lim PBA Sportsmanship award
- (Discuss) – 8 July 2024 Ukraine missile strikes → Kyiv children's hospital airstrike – The children's hospital strike is clearly the most notable and covered of these strikes, and most media outlets are covering that strike exclusively. We can mention the other strikes in the body without obstructing the searchability of the article by using a title very unlikely to be searched by someone who simply saw an article online. Most news articles have the hospital attack as the main headline and have the many other strikes as a sidenote. [20] [21] [22] [23] Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 23:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Soviet space program → Space program of the Soviet Union – I propose these moves for consistency both with articles such as "Economy of China" (as opposed to "Chinese economy"), and, in some cases, with the boldtext within the affected articles. A 2012 discussion reached a similar consensus with categories of space programs (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 August 18#Space programs). Alternatively, assuming this proposal is not enacted, I would suggest that "Space programme of Kenya" and "Space program of Turkey" are moved to "Kenyan space programme" and "Turkish space program", respectively. –Gluonz talk contribs 16:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Chinese space program → Space program of China
- Japanese space program → Space program of Japan
- Azerbaijan's space program → Space program of Azerbaijan
- Brazilian space program → Space program of Brazil
- Kazakh space program → Space program of Kazakhstan
- Lebanese space program → Space program of Lebanon
- Philippine space program → Space program of the Philippines
- (Discuss) – Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture → Names for Jewish and Christian holy books – This is a worthwhile article, but IMHO its current title is misleading. I expected "Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture" to list the Jewish and Christian names for books of the Bible. Instead, it lists divisions within the Bible, and the more authoritative of the other Jewish types of holy books. I believe that in both religions "scripture" is only used for the Bible. "Sifrei Kodesh" is a wider category used in Judaism, literally meaning "holy books", although this does have a wider scope than the current content of the nominated article. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saddle tramp → Saddle tramp (disambiguation) – Created main space page for Saddle tramp. Name previously redirected to Saddle tramp (disambiguation) page. The title Saddle tramp should direct to this page, not the disambiguation page. There is a header link at the top of this page. Maineartists (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Adil Shahi dynasty → Sultanate of Bijapur – These articles are about the states themselves, the Sultanates, not the dynasties. We should also standardize whether the Deccan Sultanates are titled by their dynastic or geographical name, and the geographical name makes more sense here both for what these articles are actually about for what a reader would actually search. The other two Deccan Sultanates are already titled for their geographic-based names (Ahmadnagar Sultanate and Bidar Sultanate). The first and third pages to be moved have the "Sultanate" first as that is what seems to be more common per ngram [24] [25] Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 10:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Pune car crash → 2024 Pune Porsche car crash – The word "Porsche" is a big identifier of this case - the brand of the car crashed is a big assosciation and that is how the case is often talked about in the media. People know it as the "Pune Porsche" case rather than the "2024 Pune car crash". Hence, for this article and this case, I believe the word Porsche should be added. The article thumbnail contains all references, more can be researched. To help my case, the article's thumbnail image is already the Porsche car model. Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 07:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James House → James House (disambiguation) – The only other entities with the exact name "James House" are James House (Rogers, Arkansas) and James House (Pensacola, Florida), which both have less than one page view per day. The singer has over 25. Everything else on the dab page James House except for the singer's album is a partial title match with at least one word other than "James House" in the title. From this evidence, it's abundantly clear that the singer is by far the most common result for people looking for the exact name "James House", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestine → Palestine (disambiguation) – The State of Palestine is the most viewed article related to Palestine, with 490,325 views. For search engine optimization, the page Palestine should redirect to the State of Palestine page, and the disambiguation page should be moved to Palestine (disambiguation). Most disambiguation follow this format.Gsgdd (talk) 21:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lin Qi (entrepreneur) → Lin Qi – WP:PTOPIC by page views as well as by Google Trends, and searching for just the name provides more results for this page's subject. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 00:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lin Qi → Lin Qi (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Edwina Mountbatten, Countess Mountbatten of Burma → Lady Mountbatten – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENT. The Ngram shows "Lady Mountbatten" to be way more common than "Edwina Mountbatten". Google also points to the subject of this page as the primary result for the term "Lady Mountbatten". The move would also make the page consistent with the one on her husband, Lord Mountbatten, which was moved following this RM. This form of naming also has precedent (Lord Byron and Lady Byron, etc.). Keivan.fTalk 04:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 18:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters *etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lunar soil → Lunar regolith – "Lunar regolith" is a much more accurate common term to refer to this specific Lunar surface material, and is generally a more favoured search term than "lunar soil" per google trends. The current title also unintentionally obscures this from pages like regolith, which discuss the concept more broadly that's being applied here. As others pointed out in the last move that was made, it's the more accurate term to use for this topic. I'm also requesting the same move for Martian soil. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 08:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martian soil → Martian regolith – "Martian regolith" is a more accurate term for this particular portion of the Martian surface and is essentially exclusively the one used in the scientific community and literature. The current title also creates some ambiguity with the regolith article not neatly pointing to the same concept by name. I've requested the same sort of move at Lunar soil. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 08:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – President of the Republic of China → President of Taiwan – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as with the recent move of the President of the People's Republic of China to the President of China. However, now with the ROC largely lost legitimacy to claim as the legitimate government of the Chinese state, let's move some of the pre-1949 historical context of these articles to the (office post) of China and let these articles focus on the history of the heads of state and government on Taiwan during Qing, Japanese colonial rule and the ROC since 1945. Silence of Lambs (talk) 22:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 10:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu → Taumata (hill) – Per WP:CONCISE. The shorter name also appears to be more common; even articles that discuss the long name appear to prefer the short one, including Stuff, news18, and NZ Herald BilledMammal (talk) 06:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque missile strike → Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack – It is not at all clear that what happened was the result of missiles launched by a manned aircraft. Forward quotes lieutenant colonel in the Israel army calling it "a drone attack", while The Guardian blames "Israeli shells" and "artillery fire" for the attack. An article in the Journal of Palestine Studies also calls it "shelling". The most detailed account is given in the Goldstone report as "The attack on the al-Maqadmah mosque".VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gaza Strip famine → Starvation of Palestinians during the Israel-Hamas war – No source is saying this is a famine. They say near-famine, starvation, or famine-like conditions. Contrary to some claims, there is not one source in this article that declares a famine. The FRC said there wasn't enough evidence to declare a famine, and other sources agreed. But pretty much all reliable sources say there is starvation. In every report, most of the population is in some form of starvation, and sources have gladly accepted this term. Additionally, starvation has been confirmed by pretty much all humanitarian orgs, the UN, ICC, and ICJ. Also, there is no common name. I want to see evidence there's a widely used name. The name doesn't have to be this, but it should revolve around starvation in Gaza. Personisinsterest (talk) 01:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Environmental damage caused by the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war – As noted in #Suggested rename above, there is well-established precedent for naming these types of articles Environmental impact of .... This is a more neutral description than Environmental damage of ..., as required by WP:NDESC. @Vice regent @Amakuru @Launchballer @Bruxton @Schwede66 @Lightburst @SafariScribe all of whom were involved in previous discussons of this topic. RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[1] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Srebrenica massacre → Srebrenica genocide – I suggest that we rename this article to "Srebrenica genocide" now that the UN has issued its resolution on the matter today, designating July 11 as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica Please also check the discussion above. Njamu (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan massacre → Rafah tent camp attack – News sources have called it "attack", "massacre", "strike" and "airstrike". It is not yet clear which is the most WP:COMMONNAME. "Massacre" carries value judgement, and "airstrike" obscures the fact that many of the casualties weren't killed directly by the airstrike, but were burned alive in the resulting fire. "Strike" is very similar to "attack", but "attack" is consistent with other similar events like World Central Kitchen aid convoy attack. I also think "Rafah tent camp" is more recognizable than "Tel al-Sultan" and most sources seem to use "Rafah tent camp" or "Rafah displacement camp".VR (Please ping on reply) 18:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Malformed requests
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- Talk:Galaxy 2 (disambiguation) – Galaxy 2 (disambiguation) is requested for move to Galaxy 2, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
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- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions