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The formatting of the Confessions quote is a little messed up due to the placement it's adjacent images ("Saint Augustine and his mother, Saint Monica", "The earliest known portrait of Saint Augustine", and "The Conversion of St. Augustine"). Monsoon Bowline (talk) 23:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! I’d like to point out that while I think it’s absolutely correct to attribute to the young Augustine an adherence to Neoplatonism, it is not correct to identify the latter as an “Hellenistic Philosophy” both as a chronological remark (it starts in III century AD, well after the conventional date that marks end of Hellenistic Age, 32 BC), and as a remark about philosophical content (actually, as the Neoplatonism entry correctly shows, it is a philosophy that comes out in contrast of Hellenistic doctrines such as Stoicism, Epicureanism and Scepticism). 93.44.82.73 (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Misleading statement about a historically falsely-attributed quote under "Jews"
Hello! I have a very minor criticism about the "Jews" subsection (3.3.3). Currently, the last sentence reads: The sentiment sometimes attributed to Augustine that Christians should let the Jews "survive but not thrive" (it is repeated by author James Carroll in his book Constantine's Sword, for example) is apocryphal and is not found in any of his writings." Firstly, the citation is incorrect, as it refers to page 218 as well, not just 219. Secondly, it is true that the "survive but not thrive" idea does not directly occur in Augustine's writings, but James Carroll does not attribute this to Augustine either. He prefaces the "survive but not thrive" quote by calling it part of a "trail of pseudo-Augustinian anti-Jewish writings." (Constantine's Sword 218).
I think the reference to Carroll is simply uneccessary here. The TIME article cited (flawed as it is for mincing Carroll's words but that's a different discussion) does not really add to the page other than provide a recent example of supposed false attribution. I think the article would be better served by a different source, such as Fredriksen. "Paul." (1999). In Fitzgerald, Allan D (ed.). Augustine Through the Ages: An Encyclopedia. Wm B Eerdmans. ISBN 978-0-8028-3843-8.
Anyway, this is my first Wikipedia thread, so if this is the wrong way to suggest this change, I do apologize, and I would also love to hear feedback on my comments! CaramichaelD (talk) 03:02, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]