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A GA from 2007. The biggest problem is the massive amount of unsourced material in the article that, if not taken care, will result in the article's delisting. Hopefully someone can work on this. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:04, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I placed a 'catch all' notice on the talk page. There are a large number of Vital articles being reassessed and it wouldn't be worth cluttering their talk page. 🏵️Etrius ( Us)03:29, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to say and I believe that the article could be better. There are citations at the end of most paragraphs but usually high quality essays will have a citation at the end of each statement. I do not know if it should be delisted by Wikipedia standards but it could use some additional work. Jorahm (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jorahm: if everything in the paragraph supported by the citation given, that's fine by Wikipedia standards. You do not need to repeat the same citation multiple times within a paragraph. That if is a big if for some articles; some people put a citation at the end of the paragraph that only supports the last sentence, and forget to put a citation needed tag for the rest of the paragraph. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 14:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am just unclear on how much research is needed for a good article. Citing an entire paragraph to a single source might not be enough in my opinion. It's an area for potential improvement but I am not sure if it would trigger a full review process. Jorahm (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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If I recall correctly, the Supreme Court does not make findings of fact. And as I asserted in #Huxman Findings of Fact, the findings of fact that Huxman provided forced the Supreme Court, if it were to find in favor of Brown, to overturn Plessy (well, at least in this context). (Otherwise, the court could have found in favor of Brown on the basis that the segregated schools were not in equal physical condition.)
In the Huxman section, I gave context to the "findings of fact" by making a "forward reference" to the Supreme Court opinion ("This finding would be specifically cited in the subsequent Supreme Court opinion ..."). When we cite this finding under the Brown v. Board of Education#Supreme court opinion, we should make clear that this is actually a finding from the District Court case. Fabrickator (talk) 01:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I fail to see how the source of the findings would be relevant information for an average reader of this article. Also, I don't recall seeing any major source devote attention to that fact. (I seem to recall discussing this with you before.) Let's see if anyone agrees with your proposition. White Whirlwind 04:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some sources that take note of Louisa Holt's testimony, referenced in the findings of the trial court and cited by the Supreme Court:
On other SCOTUS decision articles, it usually uses "is" to describe currently active decisions, and "was" to describe overruled decisions. Why is this one saying "was," when Brown v. Board of Education is still active and was never overruled? DocZach (talk) 18:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many major SCOTUS decision articles use "was", such as Marbury v. Madison, Loving v. Virginia, McCulloch v. Maryland, Miranda v. Arizona, and others. I go back and forth on which is better. "Was" is useful because it emphasizes that the decisions really are "decisions" which took place on certain dates. "Is" is useful because they have continuing applicability until they are overruled, but "is" also introduces the problem of requiring editors to decide when a decision has been overruled, which in my opinion would be a bad idea for many reasons. White Whirlwind 05:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... the Court must overrule Plessy ... unanimously to avoid massive Southern resistance ...
I take exception to this claim. First off, the phrase "massive resistance" is recognized as a description of subsequent efforts by various southern states to avoid actual compliance with desegregation orders from the Federal courts. But more specifically (as stated in the prior revision), a less than unanimous decision would provide opponents of desegregation with a "legitimizing counterargument". I believe the existing text should be reverted to reflect this explanation. Fabrickator (talk) 06:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2023 (UTC)