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Hindu nature of the festival
[edit]Pongal is always considered as a Hindu festival and is not secular. It is celebrated among the Hindus of other linguistic groups too with different names across India and the diaspora community. It was never a secular festival. If again a few non-Hindus are celebrating it, claiming it to be "cultural", create a new section to explain about it. There are non-Hindus who mostly consider Pongal to be unorthodox according to their religions. Just because a few non-Hindu Tamils celebrate it, the festival will not become secular in nature. Followers of which religion worship sun, cow, water as forms of God? It is Hindus! Christmas is always a Christian festival first then comes everything else. Same goes here! And the Hindu nature of the festival is cited with reliable sources across the article. Do not change it as you please! @Bcpandian --Naveen Ramanathan comment added by Naveen Ramanathan (talk • contribs) 08:51, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Only Hindus celebrate with Cows whereas Islam have completely different opinion on Cows .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.51.152.112 (talk) 20:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
yep. ofcourse it is a Hindu festivel. It also corresponds with Makar Sankranti of North India. None of non-hindus celebrate it in full way. Worshipping cows, sun god, jallikattu is something special for Hindus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.198.113.52 (talk) 19:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pongal is a Tamil Festival which is celebrated yearly once as a tribute to farming & Farmers & Farm equipments especially Bulls/ox for which a festival is conducted on the second day of Pongal which is referred as Maattu(Generally referred to Cows) Pongal. CibiIS Vile (talk) 18:30, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:48, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
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The above picture best illustrates the Pongal than current one. It can replace the image in Template. Srinithi67 (talk) 10:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done: Image appears to be copyvio. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:44, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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is a multi-day Hindu harvest festival of South India, particularly in the Tamil community ==> is a multi-day Hindu harvest festival of South India, particularly in the Telugu and Tamil community 185.125.226.42 (talk) 11:11, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
It is known by differnt names in different parts of South Asia as it can be seen in Makar Sankranti article. So it is better to remove "Tamil community" itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maduraikaran2 (talk • contribs) 11:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Not just Tamil Festival
[edit]Pongal is celebrated in both Telugu and Tamil Cultures with almost similar customs and celebrations including Pongal/Sankranthi Film season from mid-20th Century. Only difference is Telugus started calling Pongal as Sankranthi for few centuries (It used to be Pongali in Telugu until 16-17 Century). So, article should be edited to reflect these facts. Pavan santhosh.s (talk) 05:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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The Pongal festival is not related to any religious and it is multicultural festival that needs to be changed to Tamil festival from Tamil Hindu festival. AROKIYANATHAN (talk) 12:17, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Question: Based on my background knowledge of the topic, my understanding is that Pongal has roots in Hinduism, although it may not be celebrated by Hindus exclusively. Representing this contrast, however, can be confusing. Currently, I think that labeling it as "a multi-day Hindu harvest festival celebrated by Tamils" is appropriate here, but it could be changed if commonly misunderstood. The infobox furthermore states it is observed by "[p]rimarily Tamil Hindus," which may be accurate as well. Even if there is no explicit religious connection in modern times, perhaps Hindus make up a majority in its recognition. Feel free to correct me if wrong.
— Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 12:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Not done: If I remember, this has been discussed, debated and addressed multiple times earlier as well with regards to this article. Pongal as a festival has its roots in Hinduism as it is primarily a worship of Sun God Surya along with other Gods of Hindu pantheon for a good harvest (so are other related festivals like Sankranthi) though it may have some ancient folk elements and rituals attached to it. In the modern days, it has come to be associated with added elements which might not represent Hindu or be religious at all (such as present day practices of Kaanum Pongal) and might be celebrated by some Tamil people from other religions/non-religions as well apart from events organized by political parties and other affiliates/associations. This does not necessarily mean that the festival itself becomes secular suddenly as it is primarily a Hindu festival. For the matter, because other people get cakes, play Santa Claus and display Christmas stars does not mean that Christmas suddenly becomes a secular festival or because some people choose to prepare and eat Biryani, Eid does not become a secular festival either. In my opinion, the article mentions the various practices but does not warrant any change to the infobox or lead for the matter. Thanks!
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